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re: 60% of American adults don't have enough in savings to cover a $1,000 emergency

Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Probably $1,000.


You missed an obvious 3.50 joke there.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:33 pm to
shite. They couldn’t live with my crappy luck.


Just this week I got a 750 dollar plumbing bill. A 1200 dollar estimate on a car repair. My wife wants new bathroom cabinetry and my oldest is graduating college.

I’m chunking money out like a rapper
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35349 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:37 pm to
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You think those people didn't have a job before kids? Every high school kid can have $1k sitting in a savings account for emergencies.


How many high school kids are responsible for rent, utilities and health insurance?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:23 pm to
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If you have money, it shouldn't be sitting in a savings account. It should be in real estate or securities.


Completely agree. You always want your money to work for you
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. A disruption in cash flow could lead to liquidation of assets (some depreciating), but the fact that you have that option speaks to your financial flexibility. My boss could sell his vacation home for $600k (or car for $100k+, or watches for $'x'k) tomorrow if he needed cash.
however you should always keep some liquid assets available to you for an emergency or for a quick large cash purchase.

I wish things sold that quickly. There's going to be a delay in converting hard assets to liquid. Sometimes time is of the essence

I didn't DV you, by the way. Must have been someone else.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:26 pm to
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400k mortgage at today's rates costs 733k over the life of the loan.

400k invested in an S&P tracking index fund would yield 6,979,760.91 assuming a 10% annualized interest rate, which is based on the previous 30 yearsof returns.

So......yea....don't forsake investments for paying off your house early.


Whoa.

Next question. What's the risk in an investment like that? How did 2008 treat an investment like that? What kind of down turn requires erasing 30 years of those returns?
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55674 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:21 pm to
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How did 2008 treat an investment like that?
how'd it go for a 400k house? probably not great
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41205 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Idk, but 18-25 is a pretty small % of all adults


1/2 the Baby Boomers don't have shite in savings
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:27 pm to
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1/2 the Baby Boomers don't have shite in savings


good point
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:32 pm to
“It’s all about image control, baby.” - Ric Flair
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35349 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:39 pm to
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Next question. What's the risk in an investment like that? How did 2008 treat an investment like that? What kind of down turn requires erasing 30 years of those


That 10% annualized return accounts for the 2008 crash and the dotcom meltdown.
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1816 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

If you have money, it shouldn't be sitting in a savings account.

I have $80K just sitting in my checking acct wasting away. Not counting what’s sitting in savings. I need to buy some land or educate myself in the investing part.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
871 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:05 pm to
you have 80k in a checking account???? why????
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35349 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:09 pm to
More experienced OT ballers can chime in, but I'd increase my paycheck contributions to get to the max 401k as soon as you can.

Don't know the rules for your plan or if you're employer would allow this but divert whatever percentage of your gross pay necessary to max your 401k. You don't need the paychecks to pay bills so if it were me I'd just divert as much as possible to your 401k for the rest of the year.

Assuming of course you don't already max it out. You have a spouse? Have them do the same thing.

That'll draw down your checking account to more reasonable levels while reducing your tax burden and increasing your retirement portfolio
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 6:15 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18913 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:09 pm to
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35% say they can't afford a life insurance policy,


Help me out here. Why would a young person with no assets need a life insurance policy?

I remember when, fresh out of college and working my arse off, my college roommate tried to sell me a life insurance policy at my kitchen table. I looked around my shitty rental house and said “why the frick would I buy that?”
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:24 pm to
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how'd it go for a 400k house? probably not great


Well for one, I would never buy a house that expensive. It's not necessary.

Second, a hard asset, especially a dwelling, still has intrinsic, practical value.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

That 10% annualized return accounts for the 2008 crash and the dotcom meltdown.



Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55674 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

buy a house that expensive.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129005 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:02 pm to
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Help me out here. Why would a young person with no assets need a life insurance policy?



Young adults suddenly die. You would want at least enough of a policy to cover burial expenses.


Unless you just assume you would leave that bill for your parents to pay.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 8:55 pm to
Ummm, median home price in St Tammany Parish is $188,000. And that's one of the most desirable Parishes in the State.
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