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50 years ago (April 3, 1974)

Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:57 am
At the time the worst tornado outbreak in American history. 148 tornadoes between April 3-4. Forty of them were F4 or F5.

Brandenburg, KY got hit by an F5. Louisville airport took a hit and tore the roof off Freedom Hall.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:10 am to
Climate Change
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42244 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:11 am to
Truly a legendary outbreak. It was eclipsed only by the 2011 Super Outbreak when it comes to number of tornadoes produced.

Here is a good map of all of the tornado paths on April 3-4:

Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:19 am to
I will try to add some more stuff to this thread later, but I would encourage everyone to read about the Guin, Alabama tornado on the night of April 3rd. Guin is a small, rural town in northwest Alabama. I believe this tornado was one of the most violent to ever occur in the United States since we started keeping records on tornadoes.

Here is an interview James Spann did with former National Weather Service Birmingham meteorologist J.B. Elliott who surveyed the damage in Guin. The video is about the outbreak as a whole, but they spend a good bit of time on the Guin tornado.

YouTube
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:20 am to
Xenia, OH got most of the press then because it was the largest town hit. I know, as far as the immediate relief was concerned, a lot of people felt neglected.

Here's a good breakdown of the day:
Outbreak of the Century: 1974 Super Outbreak

The Most Important day in Tornado Science History
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:30 am to
That map is insane!
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:43 am to
Some fun facts about this outbreak:

Ted Fujita originally assigned the Xenia, Ohio tornado an F6 rating but later downgraded it to F5 because F6 would be "inconceivable". Richard Nixon said it was the worst damage he had ever seen.

The community of Tanner, Alabama was hit by TWO F5s in a little over an hour. The 2011 Hackleburg-Phil Campbell also went through Tanner which puts it high in the running for the unluckiest tornado spot on Earth.

At one time, forecasters were not able to keep up with all the tornadic activity in Indiana so they issued a blanket tornado warning for the entire state. This has never happened before or since.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:47 am to
Back last year I spent more money than I want to admit on a little book about the recovery effort in north Alabama. It follows the organized efforts of Amish and Mennonite volunteers from OH, PA, MI, etc. who came south by the busloads to help in the cleanup and rebuilding. They were under the direction of the Red Cross and Mennonite Disaster Service. Men, women, and children all came down to help. This book recounts their efforts, but also tells the stories of the people impacted that day.







I like that they had the same issue a lot of folks have today......they had no idea all the small towns on the map and how to pronounce them, or really even what they were called. "Chalybeate School at Springs, Alabama" would have likely been the the school in the town of Chalybeate Springs. There's no town around there called Springs. "Hillbore school house" was likely Hillsboro school. There was definitely a language barrier.....hahaha, or an accent issue.

Many of these same areas would come under fire in very similar fashion almost forty years later. Some of the same towns written about in this book would take considerable damage on April 27, 2011.

Before seeing this book mentioned by a friend, and then finding a copy for myself, I had no idea that the Mennonite community played such a role. It was interesting to read about.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:48 am to
The only time in my life I was truly horrified.
Living in Hazel Green, Ala and seeing the next morning is forever embedded into my mind.
A mother, father, and child were among the victims that night. People were in shock and speechless just seeing the devastation.
So many different tornadoes that just kept coming all night. Listening to the police scanner was surreal.
Praying to never see that level again.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42244 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:53 am to
James Spann has discussed a number of times his experience on the night of April 3, 1974. He was still 17 years old, but he did work with EMA’s operating a HAM radio. He was sent to a hospital in northwest Alabama that night where many of the Guin victims were taken so that he could transmit messages via HAM radio to larger cities like Tuscaloosa about what resources were needed up there. He says he saw things that night that a 17 year old shouldn’t have seen, but that it helped him when he became a meteorologist covering tornadoes like that.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2497 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I had no idea that the Mennonite community played such a role.


After Ida I saw Mennonites doing a lot of work down south of Houma. It was interesting seeing a crew of Mennonite women in long dresses up on a roof nailing shingles.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53777 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:56 am to
One of those small towns that suffered greatly in both outbreaks is the town of Tanner, Alabama in Limestone County.

This is a rough overlay of the tornadoes that impacted the town during both events:



Those three reddish color paths are the three (E)F5s that struck the town. The wider path in the center is from what is known as the Hackleburg/Phil Campbell storm. It did EF5 damage in Tanner.

On the night of April 3, 1974, as the people of Tanner were just digging out from the rubble of what would be an F5 tornado, looking for the injured and taking stock of the dead, they would be struck by another F5 tornado.

A brief snippet of radio coverage from that exact period of time, on the ground in Tanner
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:05 pm to
Spann is speaking tonight in Guin at a memorial.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53777 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:08 pm to
More radio coverage from the Tanner area immediately following the first tornado

The same trailer park (it is a huge one that also caters to RVs) would be hit in 2011. The road they are talking about would take a direct hit in 2011.

Aerial video of some of the damage in Limestone and Madison counties
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7218 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Outbrek of the Century: 1974 Super Outbreak


Good link. But, the damn chick had her face talking into the camera too much.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17468 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:21 pm to
In 6 years the '80's will be 50 years ago
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53777 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

But, the damn chick had her face talking into the camera too much.

I agree. She does really good work, but needs to take more of the voice over approach at times.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53777 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Ted Fujita originally assigned the Xenia, Ohio tornado an F6 rating but later downgraded it to F5 because F6 would be "inconceivable". Richard Nixon said it was the worst damage he had ever seen.

Yet, the Guin tornado was arguably the strongest of the outbreak. It was more rural, though, and didn't have the population of Xenia.

You can compare it to the Smithville, MS tornado on April 27, 2011, which I will go to my grave believing was the strongest, most violent tornado on that day.
Posted by GB1017LSU
Member since Nov 2015
947 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:42 pm to
I grew up in Lexington, Ky. That was a long night, listening to the radio for updates. We were fortunate that our area wasn’t impacted.
Posted by SleauxMoe
Member since Oct 2019
28 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:46 pm to
I grew up in Lexington also and still remember that day vividly. Started getting pitch black in the late afternoon. Was very eerie looking/feeling outside. I could tell my parents were really worried which kinda started freaking us kids out. Family business used to deliver produce to the grocery store in Stamping Ground, KY which is only 20 miles outside of Lexington and that town was obliterated.
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