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re: 4th grade question has us stumped!

Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:38 am to
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:38 am to
Correct answer:

TREE, FIDDY






Please update this thread tonight with the correct answer.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8526 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:50 am to
The first number could be -9
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47894 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:57 am to
quote:

52,781

I rounded up to 5 on the 10,000 spot because that shite made no sense otherwise.

Depending on how the rounding 'rules' are defined, 4.5 can be rounded to '4' because it is an even number. I have seen this as a rule = round x.5 to x+1 if x is odd, but round to x if x is even.

Also, the ones digit could also be a '2' since '2' is a prime number less than 3.

I figured they didn't count '1' as prime, so I go the number 42782 as the answer.

Seems like you have to know the context of the lessons this question relates to concerning the definition of rounding rules and the definition of prime numbers.


Overall a poorly worded questionl
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Depending on how the rounding 'rules' are defined, 4.5 can be rounded to '4' because it is an even number. I have seen this as a rule = round x.5 to x+1 if x is odd, but round to x if x is even.


Where'd you learn this rule?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47894 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:10 am to
quote:

66,782 would be my guess

I think you have it. But having 4th graders decipher that sequence seems a bit much. I would have been proud of sophomores doing that in the first few weeks of school.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:13 am to
That is a stupid arse question.

My guess is 47,782 though.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:25 am
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:16 am to
"it's a bull shite question" morissa tomei in my cousin vinny
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47894 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Where'd you learn this rule?


It is to prevent automatically biasing toward the larger number. I have never seen it written as an absolute rule anywhere, but we implemented it in situations that called for rounding in digital simulations. It is a simulation technique rather than a math rule.

Rounding is supposed to go toward the nearer number. If you have x.5 the rounded number could either be x or x+1 because they are both equidistant. If you always go to the larger number, you are introducing a small bias into the calculation. That doesn't matter for a one-time computation, but in a simulation of some natural event, it could introduce a bias in the overall result.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4235 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

That is a stupid arse question.




Yes you are not the first to point out... Have already reached out to teacher and awaiting response.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54794 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

What number am I?


7
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68930 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:18 am to
I think we are pretty much set on

X6,782

I think 4, 5, or 6 all have a good argument.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:19 am to
Good. Let us know what the C student who is now educating our children has to say.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:21 am to
Why not X7,782?

If the first number is "4.5" giving you 45,000 to start, then you add 2 to the thousand place, or 2,000, you end up with 47,000.

/runon sentence.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4235 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Good. Let us know what the C student who is now educating our children has to say.


Damn dude... thankfully I am very pleased with this teacher and my kids are testing very well so for thank goodness
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:33 am to
36=12/3..... the number * by 3 is always /by 2 for the next step. so 12/2=6
12/2=6 the 6 is divided by 2= 6
6*3=18.... the 6 / 2 = 3
9/3=3

a

so the ten thousands # = 3.
greatest factor of 8 ( 8x1)= 8-2=6
seven times the digit in the hundreds place is 49= 7
The digit in the tens place is the fourth multiple of 2= 8
The digit in the one place is a prime number less than 3=2


=36782

boom
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
85617 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:34 am to
Has anyone said 36,782?

Because that's my answer
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4235 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:39 am to
Teacher has responded but I am on a conference call at work... will post her response shortly.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68930 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:40 am to
quote:


If the first number is "4.5" giving you 45,000 to start, then you add 2 to the thousand place, or 2,000, you end up with 47,000.


Not sure that follows the directions.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26753 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:46 am to
66,782
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Paige
4th grade question has us stumped!
Has anyone said 36,782?

Because that's my answer


Thats what i got
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