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re: 4-year-old dies from flu after members of anti-vax Facebook group advise.....

Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:34 am to
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birth licenses.


Of course. Have to meet the poverty line financially and age plus criminal record should maybe be looked into as well. You shouldn't have to have an IQ of 140 in order to have kids but there should be a minimum that is reasonable for being able to raise a child.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108996 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 9:39 am to
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Some people are just stupid. Don't let that taint the reputation of people who are trying to live a clean lifestyle





The problem is some of these groups that were created to support a clean lifestyle have turned into extremists who shame any trip to a doctor or hospital.

It’s the equivalent of the “Breast is best” assholes who shame Moms to the point that they’re starving their newborns to death. Because the movement has now been imbedded in hospitals with lactation coaches who won’t accept that some newborns just won’t breast feed. It’s become totally convoluted by nutjobs.

And honestly, some of y’all are complicit as hell for not calling that shite out.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50038 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:08 am to
dumb bitch
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:54 pm to
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The problem is some of these groups that were created to support a clean lifestyle have turned into extremists who shame any trip to a doctor or hospital.

It’s the equivalent of the “Breast is best” assholes who shame Moms to the point that they’re starving their newborns to death. Because the movement has now been imbedded in hospitals with lactation coaches who won’t accept that some newborns just won’t breast feed. It’s become totally convoluted by nutjobs.



Agree, and that's pretty much what I said yet I received nothing but downvotes for it. There's overreaction on both sides. I don't understand why it's so controversial to just say, "I would like to only put the things in my body that we spent 99% of our evolutionary existence putting in our bodies." You say something like that and people just want to automatically lump you with the ignorant extremists and that's not fair or productive.

With so much misinformation and so many untrusted sources the only sure bet is to try to do what comes naturally as much as is humanly possible.

I don't trust the government, I don't trust law enforcement, I don't trust strangers, I don't trust auto mechanics, I don't trust contractors, I don't trust big business, I don't trust insurance companies, I don't trust auto manufacturers, I don't trust lawyers and I damn sure don't trust the medical industry. Caveat emptor when you use all of the above out of sheer necessity.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 12:56 pm to
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And honestly, some of y’all are complicit as hell for not calling that shite out.


That's not my job to call out Facebook moms and their bullshite. I think stupid people are stupid enough to call themselves out. They don't need any help. And why should I have to call them out anyway? I don't identify with any specific group. I'm not somebody that's easy to pigeonhole. Politically or socially.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 3:24 am to
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People are allergic to bread and milk. How is this far fetched that people are allergic to certain medication?


Reading comprehension not your strong suit
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12124 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 3:59 am to
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"EXACTLY!!" one of the group's members responded. "You just have to nourish the body which hospitals do not do. They just poison."


Posted in the group as to why the boy died.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 4:05 am to
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And honestly, some of y’all are complicit as hell for not calling that shite out.

Last time I checked there wasn't a shortage of 4-year-olds with dumbass DNA.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51956 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:01 am to
If a 10 month old, or really anyone of any age, has a fever of 105, they need to go to the hospital.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33905 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:18 am to
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My wife and I are non-interventionists and try to avoid putting anything in our bodies that isn't food and preferably unmolested(organic)

Your wife has complete control of your life. Tell her to shut up and go get a couple good cheeseburgers man. Take back control, it’s gone too far
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33905 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:25 am to
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It’s the equivalent of the “Breast is best” assholes who shame Moms to the point that they’re starving their newborns to death. Because the movement has now been imbedded in hospitals with lactation coaches who won’t accept that some newborns just won’t breast feed. It’s become totally convoluted by nutjobs.

This is 100% correct. Its a cult
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33905 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:31 am to
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Agree, and that's pretty much what I said yet I received nothing but downvotes for it.

That’s not what you said at all. Almost the exact opposite. You took an extremist position and belle is saying y’all are taking shite too far. Then you act like you aren’t extremist

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I'm not somebody that's easy to pigeonhole. Politically or socially.

Here’s your points for being fricking weird. I’m sure we could pin you to a certain group in seconds if we had all the info
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4729 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:45 am to
No doubt in my mind after reading her post that she’s on Medicaid so yes she can afford the baby’s 0.00 copay
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30494 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:48 am to
Arrest this idiot
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69242 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:57 am to
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Darwin


I see he took a break from his job as a train engineer in India to cull the herd in Colorado.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:03 am to
Should be arrested for man slaughter at the minimum. People are so fricking stupid. Kill your child to just be apart of a group and feel some sort of worth in their shitty lives.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 9:04 am to
Liberals and conservatives are the same binary thought process people.

Elderberries are delicious and good for you. They do not cute the flu unfortunately.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108996 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:00 am to
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There's overreaction on both sides. I don't understand why it's so controversial to just say, "I would like to only put the things in my body that we spent 99% of our evolutionary existence putting in our bodies." You say something like that and people just want to automatically lump you with the ignorant extremists and that's not fair or productive.


Because without 21st century medical advancements, medicines, and vaccines our life expectancy would be about 30 years less than what it is now. It’s entirely possible to live as clean a life as possible but still engage in, I dunno, taking your kid to a hospital when they have a 105 degree fever.

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With so much misinformation and so many untrusted sources the only sure bet is to try to do what comes naturally as much as is humanly possible.


See, this comes off as some dressed up “Just take the elderberries and wait it out because it’s “natural”” BS. Why are we not trusting doctors who have gone to school for years for this?

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I don't trust the government, I don't trust law enforcement, I don't trust strangers, I don't trust auto mechanics, I don't trust contractors, I don't trust big business, I don't trust insurance companies, I don't trust auto manufacturers, I don't trust lawyers and I damn sure don't trust the medical industry. Caveat emptor when you use all of the above out of sheer necessity.


FFS
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 10:01 am
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4829 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:09 am to
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Tylenol is a HUGE no-no for the flu.

Tylenol is what you are supposed to give for fever reduction. You are thinking of Aspirin.

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Leonard Nimoy used to do public service announcements about it.

Leonard Nimoy PSA - Reye's Syndrome
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 11:02 am to
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Elderberries are delicious and good for you. They do not cute the flu unfortunately.




They really aren't that good for you. Maybe for the vitamins but they can be very bad for your body.
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