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re: 4 day work week- California bill would lead the way
Posted on 4/9/22 at 11:51 am to TTB
Posted on 4/9/22 at 11:51 am to TTB
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32 hours a week would be plenty to accomplish what is currently getting done in 40.
Honestly, for many jobs you could do it in 20
Not much gets done on fridays anywhere. Fridays after noon? That’s rich.
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Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Shouldnt companies support this then? Why are the laying for 40 hours of labor if it can get done in 32?
When they get hours cut to 32 hours, watch how pissed they'll be.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
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Why are the laying for 40 hours of labor if it can get done in 32?
Its impossible to find employees now, and you'll have to increase staff. Sounds like a disaster.
Seems like a great reason to oppose.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:09 pm to TigerintheNO
I encourage a 4 day standard work week, it just separates those that dominate from those just happy to have a pay check.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:10 pm to TigerintheNO
My job really doesn't require 40 hours of work and I don't like it that much.
I think it depends on the position, but I'm not going to act all tough and be like "suck it up and stay 40 hours" when 40 hours isn't necessary for the majority of jobs and a lot of jobs are miserable anyways. We only have so much time on this planet, why be miserable for an extra eight hours if we don't have to?
I think it depends on the position, but I'm not going to act all tough and be like "suck it up and stay 40 hours" when 40 hours isn't necessary for the majority of jobs and a lot of jobs are miserable anyways. We only have so much time on this planet, why be miserable for an extra eight hours if we don't have to?
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:12 pm to TigerintheNO
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workweek from 40 hours to 32 hours for companies with more than 500 employees.
Why go after big corporate?
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:15 pm to TigerintheNO
40 hours a week?
Rookie numbers.
Rookie numbers.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:15 pm to C
Y’all are boomers, the 5 day work week is inefficient
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:32 pm to TigerintheNO
Expect the number of hours that part timers get to be spread across more people to prevent them from becoming full time.
Salaried people will either still be expected to work more than 40 hours or have their pay prorated I am sure.
Salaried people will either still be expected to work more than 40 hours or have their pay prorated I am sure.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:34 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Short of mandatory 16 hour days 7 days a week or some crazy shite there is no need for regulation.
The problem lies in the definition of crazy shite.
Some consider 50 hours a week nothing. Some consider 32 hours a week a long week. It's very easy to laugh at someone who feels that 32 hours a week is long, but their perspective is just as valid as the workaholic. You come to a very precarious question on where to draw this line.
This is exactly why we have things like congress who pass bills. The issue is the passing of bills with extraneous information that have been influenced by the pockets of industries for whom the bill benefits.
You can not be expect people to be rational, because rationality means different things in every situation. A 1900s oil baron thinks it rational for their men to live in shacks near the derrick and work 6 12s for months on end. Are they wrong? It's easy to say yes, but they don't think as much.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:35 pm to teke184
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Salaried people will either still be expected to work more than 40 hours or have their pay prorated I am sure.
With worker shortages already, management would burn at both ends trying to cover. They would pick up the slack.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:39 pm to TTB
A lot of the bullshite at my office is a mix of shite foisted on us under the guise of “training” and large meetings with no purpose.
The secondary level of bullshite wasted time deals with getting approvals from micro managers who have no idea how to budget time or delegate then wonder why everything has to run through them. Hence why a lot of them have had their staffs completely turn over in a few years time.
The secondary level of bullshite wasted time deals with getting approvals from micro managers who have no idea how to budget time or delegate then wonder why everything has to run through them. Hence why a lot of them have had their staffs completely turn over in a few years time.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
This is also a good way to end up with a lot of shite automated that would otherwise be too costly.
If you have to pay a burger fool full time at 32hrs and overtime past that, investing in tech to replace most of those people becomes affordable in comparison.
If you have to pay a burger fool full time at 32hrs and overtime past that, investing in tech to replace most of those people becomes affordable in comparison.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:46 pm to teke184
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A lot of the bull shite at my office is a mix of shite foisted on us under the guise of “training” and large meetings with no purpose.
Long-winded "trainings", BS "meetings" which consist of 5 minutes of useful discussion and 40 minutes of crap, useless paperwork/administrative red tape that seems meant to add busy work, etc.. Hell, there are chunks of time where I'm just sitting in my office bored.
Yet, I'm required to sit there until we've reached the socially acceptable time to leave work.
This post was edited on 4/9/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:49 pm to teke184
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This is also a good way to end up with a lot of shite automated that would otherwise be too costly.
Rapidly happening right now, as wages rise and shortages occur.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Tied with this really needs to be a reduction of public assistance to people who are chronically unemployed.
People need to get off their asses and start finding jobs. Failing that, they don’t need to be in a situation where they are paid to create the next generation of welfare leeches.
People need to get off their asses and start finding jobs. Failing that, they don’t need to be in a situation where they are paid to create the next generation of welfare leeches.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:56 pm to TigerintheNO
Might as well move the rest of industry in California to China
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:57 pm to teke184
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People need to get off their asses and start finding jobs.
A major supplier I deal with no longer accepts any expedited orders due to the labor shortage.
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:59 pm to TigerintheNO
So less pay and no benefits since its technically not full time?
Posted on 4/9/22 at 12:59 pm to Strannix
Or Mexico. I’m at the point to where we need a border around coastal Cali and encourage the libtards to migrate into Mexico for a better standard of life.
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