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re: 2nd grade math homework - what is the correct answer?

Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:46 am to
49-36=13
13/2=6.5
36+6.5=42.5

It’s a stupid question.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34472 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:47 am to
quote:

or the moron who wrote this question


I think it is clear the intention was for the kids to subtract 36 from 49. It was just completely mis-worded.

As a teacher, I have seen this stuff quite a bit. The taxpayers pay an assload of money to someone to come up with a “scope and sequence” ( which anyone can view at labelieves.com).

When I actually try to start teaching from this thing it is clear that it was half assed vetted. Some of the answers on the answer keys are essentially made up because I can’t even find them in the readings. The reading level of sixth graders wasn’t even considered and if I went by it faithfully and with fidelity the kids would be bored out of there minds.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

2nd grade math homework

quote:

Large dogs are “x” 

x + (x + 36) = 49 
2x + 36 = 49 
2x = 13 
x = 6.5 
x + 36 = 42.5 (small dogs) 

Congrats on the Asian kid
Posted by rgsa
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:00 am to
...36...
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62785 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:02 am to
Not that I went to a top public school system, but that question seems a bit advanced for second graders.
Regardless if it is incorrectly worded.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:19 am to


Answer = Op lies.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5308 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:32 am to
Putting aside the fact that I also got 42.5 as an answer, how in the world does anyone think the answer is 36? I get how people don't read the question well enough and then quickly correct themselves but some people actually stick with that answer? Unbelievable.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Nice edit after Googling.


You didn’t stipulate that I couldn’t google.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:47 am to
42.5
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56242 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Poor half dogs.

Assume the dog show is in a Korean market and there is no requirement for live dogs.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24147 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:03 am to
X = Large dogs
X + 36 = Small dogs

Large + Small = 49
X + X + 36 = 49
2X = 13
X = 6.5

Stupidly written question.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 10:04 am
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63997 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:08 am to
I don’t believe this is second grade math. This is 8th grade minimum, maybe 7th grade honors class.

Second graders still eat their boogers and shite in their pants.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71066 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:40 pm to
42.5 is mathematically correct but a nonsensical answer. Which defeats the entire purpose of a word problem - with a word problem you're supposed to use critical thought to help you arrive at the answer, and everyone knows there's no such thing as a half-dog.

If the word problem doesn't hold up to logic, ditch it and just have a strict algebra problem.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

X + Y = 49
Let Y = small dogs
Let X = large dogs

Y+ 36 = X

(Y + 36) + Y = 49
2Y + 36 = 49
2Y = 13
Y = 6.5

You got the correct answer but Inthink you have some error in your equation going from "knowns" to "unknowns". Using x then it magically disappears?

If "x" equals large dogs then it can't represent total dogs.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12609 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

quote:

X + Y = 49
Let Y = small dogs
Let X = large dogs

Y+ 36 = X
(Y + 36) + Y = 49
2Y + 36 = 49
2Y = 13
Y = 6.5


You got the correct answer but Inthink you have some error in your equation going from "knowns" to "unknowns". Using x then it magically disappears? If "x" equals large dogs then it can't represent total dogs.


The word problem prompts you to set up a system of equations whereby you have two equations and two unknowns.

The two unknowns:
1. number of large dogs
2. number of small dogs.

The problem gives you enough information to set up two equations:

(Small dogs) + (Large Dogs) = 49
(Small dogs) + 36 = (Large Dogs)

To solve the equations, you have to substitute the second equation into the first so you’re working one equation with one unknown. The ‘X’ doesn’t ‘magically disappear,’ it’s substituted by what we know.

Hope that helps explain it.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

42.5 is mathematically correct but a nonsensical answer. Which defeats the entire purpose of a word problem - with a word problem you're supposed to use critical thought to help you arrive at the answer, and everyone knows there's no such thing as a half-dog.

If the word problem doesn't hold up to logic, ditch it and just have a strict algebra problem.


Maybe it's an essay question. "To start, it's fair to assume there are only small and large dogs, but this assumption leads to fractional dogs, which is absurd. Thus, there must be more types than small/large, which creates the possibility there are no large dogs, so here is the range of possible small dog counts, 36 to 42." That would take a pretty bright 2nd grader indeed.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9420 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 4:18 pm to
Easy math...

100/2=50

50-10=40

40/7=5.7

5.7+36.8=42.5

Duh
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 4:50 pm to
You can't do it. if there are 36 more small dogs than big dogs, the number of small dogs plus the number of big dogs must equal an even number. Since the final total number of dogs they're looking for is an odd number, you can't do it. Not without a saw, at least.

There. I've answered it using only logic and no algebra and the OT still will have no idea what's going on because you are some stupid motherfrickers.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9927 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 5:03 pm to
36. No math involved.
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