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re: 21 Year Old Victim Dies in Bourbon St Shooting (Updated)
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:14 am to TigerWise
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:14 am to TigerWise
quote:I'm glad they can't do nothing.... That would suck is they could do nothing
The cops can't do nothing to prevent these thugs from shooting one another.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:14 am to biglego
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Did things like Danziger and Wendell Allen hurt NOPD morale any or is it mostly the financial issues you mentioned?
I don't believe it is mostly financial. I believe that the NOPD had quite a few bad apples from the old days and that those guys did some very shady things. Those are not the kind of officers any department wants. On the other hand now that the Feds have taken over I think that it is hard for cops to do the job asked of them because every complaint is picked over with a fine tooth comb by the FBI. Katrina was an enigma but some of the things that went on in New Orleans were awful.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:24 am to Dire Wolf
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Stop and frisk is a extremely scary policy, not because of the stereotyping but giving cops that much power.
so keep the status quo and nothing changes....
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The NYPD conducted 14,261 stops between Jan. 1 and March 31 of this year, compared to 99,788 during the same period in 2013, according to the Wall Street Journal.
shootings up nearly 10 percent over last year in NYC
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:26 am to monsterballads
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shootings up nearly 10 percent over last year in NYC
when I was there last summer it was the hot topic in papers and on the news.
Apparently 97% of those stopped were black or latino.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to TigerWise
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The cops can't do nothing to prevent these thugs from shooting one another.
cops aren't there to protect the public.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:28 am to monsterballads
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so keep the status quo and nothing changes....
because the only solution is stop and frisk.....Come on
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:28 am to monsterballads
I don't think there is any question that you could go "gloves off" and let the NOPD do whatever they like in order to see crime go down. But what are you, and every other citizen, willing to tolerate?
Random stops
Checkpoints
Person and Vehicle searches
Profiling
Massive video surveillance
K-9 extinction by gunfire (kidding on that one)
All things consistently shown to suppress criminal activity. Of course they are also all unconstitutional. You can't have it both ways.
Random stops
Checkpoints
Person and Vehicle searches
Profiling
Massive video surveillance
K-9 extinction by gunfire (kidding on that one)
All things consistently shown to suppress criminal activity. Of course they are also all unconstitutional. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to 4LSU2
quote:
9 shot on Bourbon Street
Your move Chicago
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to Napoleon
quote:So I guess this means white people are pussies.
when I was there last summer it was the hot topic in papers and on the news.
Apparently 97% of those stopped were black or latino.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to Napoleon
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Apparently 97% of those stopped were black or latino.
same percentage that is stastically PROVEN to commit crimes
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:32 am to jbgleason
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But what are you, and every other citizen, willing to tolerate?
tourists need to feel safe.
no tourism = no money from tourism = MASSIVE hit to the NOLA economy = more crime
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:33 am to Dire Wolf
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because the only solution is stop and frisk.....Come on
i didn't say it was. but it's something that helped NYC get a handle on their crazy crime problem.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:33 am to SuperSaint
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I'm glad they can't do nothing.... That would suck is they could do nothing
Dey ain'ts foolins nobodys
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:33 am to TigerWise
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We could tell from your screen name.
I deserve that
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:34 am to monsterballads
Like people have said in this thread. They are families that have lives in Nola for several generations and has not had violent crime touch close to home. I'm not ready to give up being pulled over and searched at random and my rights slowly stripped away bc 2 thugs with no regards to life decided to settle a dispute on bourbon. I feel it's a root problem not something we should be reactionary to that degree.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:34 am to monsterballads
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helped NYC get a handle on their crazy crime
Not really
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:34 am to monsterballads
There is no quick solution to this problem without initiating some borderline unconstitutional policy like stop and frisk.
It's up to what the good people of New Orleans are willing to tolerate.
It's up to what the good people of New Orleans are willing to tolerate.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:36 am to SuperSaint
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Like people have said in this thread. They are families that have lives in Nola for several generations
They should try living here too
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:36 am to monsterballads
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But what are you, and every other citizen, willing to tolerate? tourists need to feel safe. no tourism = no money from tourism = MASSIVE hit to the NOLA economy = more crime
Talk about a non-response. How would tourists feel about NOPD throwing them on a car and going through their pockets for no reason? How long would NO residents hang around and work in the tourism industry if the police presence was so overwhelming that you couldn't walk about freely? It is all a trade off and that was my original question.
What are people willing to put up with in exchange for crime going down?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:54 am to jbgleason
Don't quote me on this, but didn't stop and frisk in NYC just push crime away from certain areas like Times Square? I don't believe that overall shooting went down much.
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