re: 21 Year Old Victim Dies in Bourbon St Shooting (Updated)

I have said it before on the OT (and I think I mentioned it back on page 3 in this very thread) but back in the late 80's, there was at least two uniformed officers a block plus plainclothes officers on Bourbon. They didn't allow people who weren't tourists or frequenting bars to hang around. They didn't allow groups to gather and stand still, they beat the crap out of anyone who got in a fight and generally whipped up on a few bystanders as well. Anyone coming near a police horse got a boot to the head. And I can't remember a single shooting or violent crime on or near Bourbon at that time. But they don't have enough officers for that anymore (I think the press release said there were 30 something officers on in 8th District that night for the entire District) and no one wants their rights violated like that anymore either. So we have what we have today.

I'm sure most won't agree but I'm fine with losing some of my rights if it means keeping the greater community safer. I don't have anything to worry about. I want the criminals to worry. Right now, they don't worry about shite. I don't think it would spiral out of control to where our rights would then get violated every which way but what do I know.

Does the New Orleans and or NOPD allow police officers to take 2nd jobs as security for businesses i.e. secruity job at a Club at night? Not saying this will prevent issues from happening but if clubs had armed police presence at the door of clubs and bars, this could help cut down on stuff happening.

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They can't argue the straight up facts and numbers in this city.

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And they definitely can't argue NYC's numbers since their new Mayor eliminated stop and frisk.

NYC sees 33% spike in murders

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Does the New Orleans and or NOPD allow police officers to take 2nd jobs as security for businesses i.e. secruity job at a Club at night? Not saying this will prevent issues from happening but if clubs had armed police presence at the door of clubs and bars, this could help cut down on stuff happening.

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Not to my knowledge. That is the way the old detail program worked but it has been done away with now.

Whatever. My level of caring has dropped a lot in the last couple years. I avoid the quarter at pretty much all costs, especially after dark.



The ghost of Harry Lee needs to come back and clean up this crap.

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The guys that want / need to carry guns wouldnt go there anymore.

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I sure the hell dont want them coming to my neighborhood because they cant go to the Quarter anymore.

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Start stopping & frisking young black men on bourbon.

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and then what?

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The quarter is a gem in the city

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it could be but it's not. It's nice in the daytime.

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sure the hell dont want them coming to my neighborhood because they cant go to the Quarter anymore.

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That's what happened when they shut down that daiquiri shop on st Charles.

from an articles comments from NYC people:

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I lived in NYC for 2 years before the stop and frisk approach was adopted and for 5 more after. I can say that anyone in NYC will confirm that when stop and frisk was adopted the gun crimes dropped down to lows that were almost unbelievable.

Sections of the city that were rarely visited by anyone because of crime suddenly were safe to walk in. It ushered in a time of growth and rebuilding of neighborhoods that made the entire city turn around from a crime standpoint.

The issues of being tough on some liberties were true but the outcome of crime dropping drastically were undeniable and it changed the city in an incredibly positive way. Stop and frisk is the answer here, it takes a mayor and a police chief that are brave and focused with unflinching resolve to wipe out these crimes.

I don't think the current pair can handle it. It's tough and I don't think they have the ability to lead in this way. The people of the city need to get behind this and push for it. Enough is enough.

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Yes, I was in NYC around that time too. The difference that Giuliani's approach made was like NIGHT and DAY. It changed New York's trajectory and changed its future.
Landrieu can make the same thing happen in Nola. He just has to have the political courage and the right police chief to do it--and they must also correct the negative effects of the new restrictions on work by off-duty uniformed police.

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stop and frisk has ended in NYC and crime is up 33%