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Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:10 am to Tupelo
Just like Nutria, Gov gets in the way and sets up idiotic rules that do little to nothing to address the issue. The rules for Nutria are such a pain in the rear that it discourages people from participation. Similar thing with the python program. The Nutria program won’t let you just shoot them and get the tail for payment. From what I recall, you have to dispose of the body etc… because they are worried about the impact on Alligator eating habits. 
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:26 am to Auburn1968
From a 2023 article from the Tampa Bay Times:
The original python challenge a decade ago netted a mere 68 pythons. This year, around a thousand registrants captured and killed 209 pythons.
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The original python challenge a decade ago netted a mere 68 pythons. This year, around a thousand registrants captured and killed 209 pythons.
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:39 am to Auburn1968
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18' Florida Python
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:59 am to LanierSpots
Guess who would need a pool screen repair after seeing that
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:00 am to glassman
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With what? Scent based sexual traps? Pythons don’t eat carrion, only live prey.
The big egg laden monster in the OP was found by a radio tagged male. That is certainly an avenue that can make a dent in their population explosion.
Considering the near total decimation of many mammal species in their established area, live bait would certainly work.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 10:19 am
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:07 am to Auburn1968
I wonder what a python juvenile survival rate is?
With that many dozens of eggs per hatch I gotta imagine most don’t make it to adulthood. Get picked off by gators, hawks etc until they are big enough.
With that many dozens of eggs per hatch I gotta imagine most don’t make it to adulthood. Get picked off by gators, hawks etc until they are big enough.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:05 am to Mstate
There are some studies on juvenile survival rates and egg clutch sizes. Based on these indications, tagging males and having them find the females could have a real impact on limiting the populations growth.
https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-021-00098-2
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Population Projections of Invasive Burmese Pythons in the Florida ...
Nov 16, 2023The clutch rate and survival rate for young pythons were reduced by 50% to 20 eggs per female every two years and 10% survival rate for young pythons. The population numbers become exceedingly high if the initial population is assumed to be 300,000 with a clutch size of 40 eggs (which
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Initial dispersal behavior and survival of non-native juvenile Burmese pythons (Python bivittatus) in South Florida
Shannon E. Pittman & Ian A. Bartoszek
BMC Zoology volume 6, Article number: 33 (2021) Cite this article
Abstract
Background
Dispersal behavior is a critical component of invasive species dynamics, impacting both spatial spread and population density. In South Florida, Burmese pythons (Python bivittatus) are an invasive species that disrupt ecosystems and have the potential to expand their range northward. Control of python populations is limited by a lack of information on movement behavior and vital rates, especially within the younger age classes. We radio-tracked 28 Burmese pythons from hatching until natural mortality for approximately 3 years. Pythons were chosen from 4 clutches deposited by adult females in 4 different habitats: forested wetland, urban interface, upland pine, and agricultural interface.
Results
Known-fate survival estimate was 35.7% (95% CI = 18% - 53%) in the first 6 months, and only 2 snakes survived 3 years post hatching. Snakes moving through ‘natural’ habitats had higher survival than snakes dispersing through ‘modified’ habitats in the first 6- months post-hatching. Predation was the most common source of mortality. Snakes from the agricultural interface utilized canals and displayed the largest net movements.
https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-021-00098-2
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:15 pm to chinhoyang
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chinhoyang
ChinhoYang from the top rope! Didn't know you had it in ya
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:50 pm to Auburn1968
Any other ideas as to how these things can be controlled or eradicated?
So far, control seems so be using radio tracked male pythons to find the females. Kill the females and the population will decline.
Eradication is to saturate the infestation areas with bait mice, rats and rabbits with a Tylenol payload since they have completely decimated the mammal populations where they have taken over. The pythons will find the deadly prey.
So far, control seems so be using radio tracked male pythons to find the females. Kill the females and the population will decline.
Eradication is to saturate the infestation areas with bait mice, rats and rabbits with a Tylenol payload since they have completely decimated the mammal populations where they have taken over. The pythons will find the deadly prey.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:11 pm to Auburn1968
I wonder how they determine that the tagged male has found a date?
https://phys.org/news/2019-04-invasive-pythons.html
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The conservancy surgically implants male pythons with inch-long radio transmitters that are then tracked by plane every two weeks. The hope is the male will lead to a female. When a male is found, researchers mark its position and go in.
"We use canoes, boats, we go over land, we hack our way in," Worley said. "We are after the female. We take out the males too, except for our transmitter guy."
https://phys.org/news/2019-04-invasive-pythons.html
Posted on 7/23/24 at 2:06 pm to Auburn1968
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Any other ideas as to how these things can be controlled or eradicated?
They're also using GPS collared possums and raccoons in a couple of ways. One is to just track the animals until they stop moving for a certain amount of time, which likely means they've died, and then tracking the collar down. They've found snakes that way and are still using the method.
I also read somewhere a while back that they use possums with GPS collars to locate nests. A possum will find a nest and hang around near it because they can be a significant food source for them.
There is no shortage of work being done to find ways to hunt and kill those bastards.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 2:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
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They're also using GPS collared possums and raccoons in a couple of ways. One is to just track the animals until they stop moving for a certain amount of time, which likely means they've died, and then tracking the collar down. They've found snakes that way and are still using the method.
In the areas where the pythons have been well established, possums and raccoons have already been wiped out. That does present an opportunity to bait the area with mice, rats and rabbits with either a tracker or a lethal dose of Tylenol. Tylenol is extremely toxic to snakes.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:30 am to riverdiver
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For whatever reason, they don’t allow you to blast them with a shotgun. If you don’t hand capture and “humanely” kill them, they’ll prosecute you. Crazy, isn’t it?
What’s inhumane about a bullet. You never even hear the shot that kills you…
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:37 am to WhiskeyThief
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For whatever reason, they don’t allow you to blast them with a shotgun. If you don’t hand capture and “humanely” kill them, they’ll prosecute you. Crazy, isn’t it?
What’s inhumane about a bullet. You never even hear the shot that kills you…
Why be humane to an invasive killer that has decimated native mammals.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:20 am to WhiskeyThief
In another snake eradication attempt, Guam is over run by brown tree snakes and a bait program was developed. Brown tree snakes will eat anything from birds and lizards to carrion.
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ASAN, Guam (May 4, 2023) – The Joint Region Marianas (JRM) Brown Tree Snake Eradication Program continues to combat the invasive snake species on the island of Guam.
The Brown Tree Snake (boiga irregularis) has disturbed the ecological balance of Guam since the 1950s, when the species first arrived stowed away in shipping materials. On the island, the tree snakes prey on various small animals including lizards, birds, and bats.
"They are opportunistic feeders," said Megan Parker, a natural resources specialist with JRM. "Since they were introduced, there has been a cascading effect. They eat the birds; fewer birds means more pests and diseases and then there are no native birds to spread native seeds - that's another big impact."
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:39 am to TejasHorn
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Maybe AI can create a virus that only targets them but that’s obviously risky lol.
This is exactly how the zombie apocalypse will start.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:56 am to KennesawTiger
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This is exactly how the zombie apocalypse will start.
I hope I, and Samuel L. Jackson, live long enough to see/make Zombie Snakes on a Plane.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:15 pm to KennesawTiger
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Maybe AI can create a virus that only targets them but that’s obviously risky lol.
This is exactly how the zombie apocalypse will start.
That would be some high risk stuff. Wuhan lab stuff.
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