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re: 16-year-old girl killed in targeted attack Sunday morning

Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Sheriff said the 3 adult males in the victims car refused to cooperate and did not speak with detectives.
So they know who did it but won’t tell the police.
This is why the cycle will never end and only get worse.


That may not be the case at all....it may well be that they won't tell the Sheriff what the Sheriff wants to hear. It could well be that the authorities have a perpetrator in mind and the eye witnesses are telling them that they are wrong. It happens. There are a myriad of reasons that the police would state that witnesses are being uncooperative. It may well be that witnesses are indeed being uncooperative but it is about as likely that witnesses are telling a story that does not dovetail with what the police have already determined happened without a shred of evidence. It may also have something to do with the police telling the witnesses that they are going to be charged with a crime and the witnesses clamming up. Bad police work happens daily.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:29 pm to
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This is for the cultcha. Can’t be snitching on other didndunuffins



At best the killer targeted a 16 year old girl. I am pretty certain were I there and knew that I would not have seen a thing either. Taking a birds eye view of talking to the police is far different than doing it and walking home alone afterwards.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:32 pm to
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That may not be the case at all....it may well be that they won't tell the Sheriff what the Sheriff wants to hear. It could well be that the authorities have a perpetrator in mind and the eye witnesses are telling them that they are wrong. It happens. There are a myriad of reasons that the police would state that witnesses are being uncooperative. It may well be that witnesses are indeed being uncooperative but it is about as likely that witnesses are telling a story that does not dovetail with what the police have already determined happened without a shred of evidence. It may also have something to do with the police telling the witnesses that they are going to be charged with a crime and the witnesses clamming up. Bad police work happens daily.




Yeah, just ignore what your eyes and ears tell you about this ratchet, destructive culture, and immediately jump to "well, they're just good people afraid of the police". You're a moron.

The very, very, very likely scenario is this was a gang related shooting and the ghetto-fabulous "snitches get stiches" ethos is why they are not cooperating with police.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:39 pm to
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These kinds of actions are the only things that’ll slow this shite down, and sort of start to fix the issues. Of course they have to be done effectively, but if we really want to fix this thuggish lifestyle, then society is going to have to turn a blind eye to civil rights and other freedoms we have as Americans, for about 15 years.



Wow. So basically what needs to happen is to suspend the bill of rights for 15 years. Maybe just apply it to certain demographics, am I right? All of this despite violent crime in the US being statistically stagnant except for a few periods like the 1930s and 80s/90s? Crime rates are hard to quantify prior to 1903 but generally they are the same today as they have always been except during the depression when they were extremely high and in the 80s and 90s when they were also very high.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:42 pm to
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So basically what needs to happen is to suspend the bill of rights for 15 years.
That is going to ultimately be the outcome because individuals like you want to continue defending the “no snitching” culture.

Although, I’m starting to think individuals, like yourself, support this so that more black people are murdered in retaliation.

David Duke would be quite proud.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:43 pm to
Wouldn't it actually be more newsworthy and effed up if a drive-by shooting wasn't "targeted" and brothas just started shooting folks at random? Or was "targeted" just needed to increase the clickbaitiness of the thread title?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
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This all can be traced back to progressive policies of yesteryear (i.e. LBJ) and current decriminalization efforts of the current progressive/Democratic Party.

It is massively political, along with cultural and socioeconomic.


Violent crime rates today are nearly identical to what they were in the 1950s . LBJ policies, if truly responsible, are responsible for reducing the high rates of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Of course LBJs policies are not responsible for the sharp increase or the sharp decline....those rates today are about what they have always been with the exception of the 30s during the depression and a similar period of economic upheaval in the late 70s - early 90s.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Violent crime rates today are nearly identical to what they were in the 1950s .
Violent crime rates have declined for every race to below 10 per 100,000…except for blacks.

It is below 5 per 100,000 for Asians and whites.

Black Americans are currently above 30 per 100,000…and currently rising.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:49 pm to
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180 years of Communism, breaking down ALL institutions that existed before and which gave moral guidance, all in the name of revolution is the cause. Great Society liberalism is PART of that political cause.



So 1844 was the last time the streets of the US were safe? You do realize that during that era native Americans were apt to killing entire families in every part of the US west of the Mississippi river, right? Not to mention what was happening to a sizeable number of people of a certain demographic in the south? 180 years. You want another stab at that?
Posted by thelsutigers
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Thug culture has done more harm to the black community than anything.


Black community lack of response to Thug culture has done more harm. Fixed it.

Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:55 pm to
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16-year-old girl killed in targeted attack


So how does a 16 y/o land in a set of circumstances where they are "targeted for attack???"

Oh, wait....Never mind.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:57 pm to
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That is going to ultimately be the outcome because individuals like you want to continue defending the “no snitching” culture.

Although, I’m starting to think individuals, like yourself, support this so that more black people are murdered in retaliation.

David Duke would be quite proud.


I am not defending anything I am only pointing out that is easy to sit anonymously behind a computer screen and take the moral high ground while it is incredibly dangerous to actually do what you think is a no brainer and that is be a witness in a murder case. People from all backgrounds and of all demographics tend to put their own safety and that of their families and friends ahead of the police's need to know. It is not something that needs defending, it is a simple fact of life....being an eyewitness to a crime and telling the police what you know is not without significant risk. I know it looks that way in movies and on TV but in reality is damned dangerous.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:58 pm to
Crime numbers are and always have been massaged to fit the narrative pushed by politicians and MSM. Look at the mass shootings involving each demographic and how much coverage each gets on the daily news. Many crime descriptions don't even list the perps complexion because of muh raycism or homophobia or islamaphobia or pick your phobia.
Dieversity is not and never will be our strength.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:59 pm to
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I am not defending anything I am only pointing out that is easy to sit anonymously behind a computer screen and take the moral high ground while it is incredibly dangerous to actually do what you think is a no brainer and that is be a witness in a murder case.
Why is it that that mindset is only rampant in one culture?
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People from all backgrounds and of all demographics tend to put their own safety and that of their families and friends ahead of the police's need to know.
Again, we only hear about this when it predominately involves one culture.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24826 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:03 pm to
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Sheriff said the 3 adult males in the victims car refused to cooperate and did not speak with detectives. So they know who did it but won’t tell the police. This is why the cycle will never end and only get worse.

No. We need more section 8 housing if affluent areas, more money in public schools, more counseling to criminals, zero dollar bonds, increases to EBT amounts, and mandate more diversity hires.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:05 pm to
I’m just so sick of all this shite….
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Violent crime rates have declined for every race to below 10 per 100,000…except for blacks.

It is below 5 per 100,000 for Asians and whites.

Black Americans are currently above 30 per 100,000…and currently rising.


The violent crime rate in the US is around 6% for all people regardless of race. This is pretty much the same rate as it has always been except during the depression and the late 70s - early 90s. It is about what it has always been for ALL races. I know, I get it....you want to believe that black folks are dangerous and you would like for everyone to agree with you...the fact is, however, that black folks are no more dangerous than white folks just because they are black and white and are about as dangerous today as they have always been, white black or any color. The data since the 1930s is READILY available....choosing to pretend otherwise is pretty revealing as to what the pretender is actually promoting as an idea....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Black community lack of response to Thug culture has done more harm. Fixed it.


The war on drugs is actually more responsible than anything. Removing fathers from families for long periods of times over victimless crimes was a bad idea and we are footing the bill today...we are actually very fortunate that things ain't as bad as the fevered imagination driven by Fox News would have us believe.


Many white families in the south were placed in a similar situation in the past. The difference was that those families were only separated by a year or so. The same crime today, producing or possessing a controlled substance with the intent to distribute it. will get your arse tossed in jail for a LONG time. It was also possible, when it was happening to white folks in the south, to get out and pretend it never happened...the record did not follow you your entire life. Finally, when it was happening to white families in the south it COST the state money....today it is a profitable industry. But lets pretend it has something, anything at all, to do with skin color....because that has always worked out well....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Dieversity is not and never will be our strength.



It makes NO difference if diversity is or is not a strength or a weakness....it exists. Given that there is diversity in the US and the world it is simply a fact of life. Its no more a problem than the sky being blue...it simply is and always has been and there ain't shite that can done about it...crying about the sky being blue would universally be seen as insane.....
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Thug culture has done more harm to the black community than anything.




Statistics prove this but the MSM spins the “White Supremacy” is the biggest issue facing Blacks in America. How’s that working out?
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