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157 years ago today...the Battle of Fredericksburg begins
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:49 pm
Ranked as one of the worst defeats in the history of the United States Army, the Fredericksburg campaign began well enough for the Union Army of the Potomac. Ambrose Burnside and his army of 120,000 men stole a march on Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia, fooling the Gray Fox completely. By late-November, the Army of the Potomac had arrived across the Rappahannock River from Fredericksburg. Nothing stood between Burnside and the Confederate capital of Richmond, just 50 miles distant.
A paperwork mix-up, however, kept the Union army from crossing the river as the much-needed pontoon bridges had not arrived and were nowhere to be found. The delay gave Lee the time he needed to react and begin marching his army to Fredericksburg to prevent the Union army from crossing. By the time the pontoon bridges had been located and re-routed to Fredericksburg, Lee's 75,000 men had begun arriving and digging in on the heights just outside of town.
Despite pleas from the officers within his own high command to maneuver the army away from Fredericksburg and find another place to cross the river, Burnside resolved to cross the army there as planned. In the early morning hours of December 11, 1862, Burnside's engineers began constructing three pontoon bridges across the river.
As the sun began to rise, the Union engineers were surprised to come under heavy musket fire from buildings opposite them along the Fredericksburg river front. A brigade of Mississippians under the command of Brigadier General William Barksdale had occupied the town itself and had resolved to contest the Union crossing. In response, batteries of massive Union artillery bombarded the town from atop Stafford Heights. Despite the heavy damage inflicted on the town, Barksdale's men continued to pick off the Union engineers on the other side of the river.
Union infantry piled into boats and rowed their way across the Rappahannock, under heavy fire from Barksdale's soldiers every step of the way. This was the first contested amphibious assault in American military history. The Union soldiers landed on the Confederate side of the river and began a house-to-house, street-by-street battle with their Confederate foe. Another first in American military history (urban combat). As Union soldiers pushed deeper into town, and as more Union reinforcements began arriving to support them, Barksdale ordered his men to retreat from the city and return to their main line some three quarters of a mile beyond the town.
Fredericksburg was now in Union hands. After making a successful amphibious assault across the river, and after successfully engaging the Confederates in urban combat, the Union soldiers began to sack the city - much to the anger of their commanding officers. Order was slow in being restored. And while Fredericksburg was now under firm Union control, Lee's 78,000 men waited just beyond the town, well-entrenched, ready for a fight.
That fight would come some 48 hours later and would be a total disaster for the Union army.
A paperwork mix-up, however, kept the Union army from crossing the river as the much-needed pontoon bridges had not arrived and were nowhere to be found. The delay gave Lee the time he needed to react and begin marching his army to Fredericksburg to prevent the Union army from crossing. By the time the pontoon bridges had been located and re-routed to Fredericksburg, Lee's 75,000 men had begun arriving and digging in on the heights just outside of town.
Despite pleas from the officers within his own high command to maneuver the army away from Fredericksburg and find another place to cross the river, Burnside resolved to cross the army there as planned. In the early morning hours of December 11, 1862, Burnside's engineers began constructing three pontoon bridges across the river.
As the sun began to rise, the Union engineers were surprised to come under heavy musket fire from buildings opposite them along the Fredericksburg river front. A brigade of Mississippians under the command of Brigadier General William Barksdale had occupied the town itself and had resolved to contest the Union crossing. In response, batteries of massive Union artillery bombarded the town from atop Stafford Heights. Despite the heavy damage inflicted on the town, Barksdale's men continued to pick off the Union engineers on the other side of the river.
Union infantry piled into boats and rowed their way across the Rappahannock, under heavy fire from Barksdale's soldiers every step of the way. This was the first contested amphibious assault in American military history. The Union soldiers landed on the Confederate side of the river and began a house-to-house, street-by-street battle with their Confederate foe. Another first in American military history (urban combat). As Union soldiers pushed deeper into town, and as more Union reinforcements began arriving to support them, Barksdale ordered his men to retreat from the city and return to their main line some three quarters of a mile beyond the town.
Fredericksburg was now in Union hands. After making a successful amphibious assault across the river, and after successfully engaging the Confederates in urban combat, the Union soldiers began to sack the city - much to the anger of their commanding officers. Order was slow in being restored. And while Fredericksburg was now under firm Union control, Lee's 78,000 men waited just beyond the town, well-entrenched, ready for a fight.
That fight would come some 48 hours later and would be a total disaster for the Union army.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:53 pm to RollTide1987
To hell with those bluebelly pos.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
Since we're on the civil war. The GOAT general.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 4:58 pm to RollTide1987
Doesn’t seem that long.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:00 pm to RollTide1987
Good guys won the war.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:04 pm to TT9
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The GOAT general.
In comparison to his predecessors, especially McClellan, he may be the GOAT. However, in the long history of war, Grant was not that talented as a General. His strategy for defeating Lee worked under the assumption of Lee's superiority as a general. He made the war into a war of attrition where the Union held a huge advantage with the quantity of men and supplies. Grant did what needed to be done for the Union to win the war and I think he is one of the more interesting characters of the Civil War given his background, but he is not the GOAT General.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:10 pm to Ping Pong
But isn't that not Grant, but Sherman?
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:12 pm to RollTide1987
Wasn't it 157 years ago? The war was all but over 156 years ago.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:14 pm to PhantomMenace
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But isn't that not Grant, but Sherman?
well shite, it is.
I guess I need to go to the eye doctor
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:15 pm to Ping Pong
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He made the war into a war of attrition where the Union held a huge advantage with the quantity of men and supplies. Grant did what needed to be done for the Union to win the war
I agree. Grant demonstrated a very strong grasp of logistics (which has won more wars than any other skill set), but to be the GOAT I’d need to see a similar mastery of tactics.
I’m not saying he wasn’t capable of tactics, just that he never proved it.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:16 pm to Ping Pong
People really need to study Grant's western campaigns more closely. What he did against Lee was not what he wanted to do against Lee. But the enemy has a say in the fight and Lee's strategy for 1864 was to dig entrenchments and maneuver Grant's larger, bulkier army into attacking him. Grant tried to avoid this by attempting multiple times to turn Lee's right flank and get between him and Richmond.
What people don't give Grant enough credit for is completely taking the initiative away from Lee and never giving it back. Lee tried to seize the initiative at the outset during the Battle of the Wilderness, attacking Grant on May 5 and again on May 6. Each time, Grant would parry Lee's attack and hit him right back. By the Battle of Spotsylvania several days later, Lee was doing nothing but reacting to Grant's moves, trying desperately to hold on from behind prepared entrenchments against fierce attacks.
The fatal move came right after Cold Harbor, when Grant succeeded in getting around Lee's right flank, crossing below the James River, and besieging the all-important railroad junction of Petersburg. That was checkmate right there. The war was effectively over. It just took nine more months for Lee to realize it.
What people don't give Grant enough credit for is completely taking the initiative away from Lee and never giving it back. Lee tried to seize the initiative at the outset during the Battle of the Wilderness, attacking Grant on May 5 and again on May 6. Each time, Grant would parry Lee's attack and hit him right back. By the Battle of Spotsylvania several days later, Lee was doing nothing but reacting to Grant's moves, trying desperately to hold on from behind prepared entrenchments against fierce attacks.
The fatal move came right after Cold Harbor, when Grant succeeded in getting around Lee's right flank, crossing below the James River, and besieging the all-important railroad junction of Petersburg. That was checkmate right there. The war was effectively over. It just took nine more months for Lee to realize it.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:20 pm to RollTide1987
I visited Fredericksburg some time ago and this story stayed with me..
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Richard Rowland Kirkland, known as "The Angel of Marye's Heights",
Posted on 12/11/19 at 5:26 pm to Decisions
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I’m not saying he wasn’t capable of tactics, just that he never really showed it.
agreed
He certainly had the opportunity to show tactics during the 9 months he was stalemated against Lee at Petersburg. But I guess its fair to say he may have believed the confederates would soon surrender with Sherman tearing through Georgia.
I'm not sure who came up with the idea to mine under the confederate trenches at Petersburg and place explosives, but Grant could have been given credit if it were a success and not executed by the worthless General Burnside. I believe Grant referred to the Battle of the Crater as the saddest thing he had witnessed during the war so something like that. Events like that certainly deter a person from making strategic risks or executing creative tactics.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 6:07 pm to RollTide1987
Looking down from St Mary's Heights, JEB Stuart told Lee, a chicken wouldnt make it across that field.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:15 pm to Ping Pong
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He certainly had the opportunity to show tactics during the 9 months he was stalemated against Lee at Petersburg.
What do you mean by "tactics"? Grant was attempting to cut the railroads that fed Lee's army and the Confederate capital. It was a siege in the classic sense as both sides had devolved to trench warfare that more closely resembled World War I than it did the classic Napoleonic battles of old.
When Lee was finally forced out of his trenches to fight Grant's army in the open in March 1865, the Union army won every single battle. No need to use tactics when you can just as easily bleed the enemy white with minimal losses.
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I'm not sure who came up with the idea to mine under the confederate trenches at Petersburg and place explosives, but Grant could have been given credit if it were a success and not executed by the worthless General Burnside.
It was actually Burnside's plan. Henry Pleasants of the 48th Pennsylvania (a regiment filled with coal miners) came to Burnside with the idea and Burnside, to his credit, decided to turn the coal miner's idea into action. A division of African-American troops were assigned the first wave of the assault and had been training for it for two weeks when George Meade, the commander of the Army of the Potomac, ordered Burnside to move the African-American division into a supporting role.
Meade hated the plan from the outset and believed that if it failed, Lincoln could be hurt in the November elections if too many blacks died in the assault. As a result, Burnside (stupidly) had his remaining division commanders draw straws for the "honor" of leading the attack. The short straw went to his worst division commander, who spent the majority of the Battle of the Crater behind the lines black out drunk.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:38 pm to GetCocky11
Anyone with a shred of an idea of what is going on today with the government should easily see how wrong this statement is.
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:44 pm to Ping Pong
The cowards are not a big fan of Sherman.
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