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re: $15 minimum wage directly contributing to fast-food industry's automation push

Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 pm to
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In your opinion


In all the companies moving to automate opinion as well.

Their labor is simply not worth the cost at that payrate.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Is capitalism. And it has done just that. Our "poor" in this country are not poor.


I agree, but you're just good with where we're at? No reason to try to improve?

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Travel outside the US a bit and you'll understand this.


I have and do
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 pm to
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I agree, but you're just good with where we're at? No reason to try to improve?


A federally mandated minimum wage is not the way to improve.

Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5077 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Yea they do because the cost of living has gone up substantially. Just because they choose to work in the fast food industry, doesn’t mean they should be forced to live in poverty. It’s not that hard to understand.

They could choose to do anything. They could choose to learn a skill. They aren't forced into poverty. Maybe if we solved the problem of single mothers then rent wouldn't be so expensive.

I don't understand why the concept of personal responsibility has been lost. Being 45 years old working at a fast food place should never be a career. It's the price paid for cheap and unhealthy meals. A $15 minimum wage hurts the people you are trying to protect more than anyone.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:57 pm to
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In all the companies moving to automate opinion as well.

Their labor is simply not worth the cost at that payrate.



Minumim wage isn't $15/hour and they're already doing it.

It has nothing to do with minimum wage unless you talk about regressing it.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11190 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:58 pm to
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The work they do does not justify $15 an hour. Period.


Chances are they make your lunch most days, maybe you should just stop eating fast food then. Then you won’t have to worry what they’re paid.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:58 pm to
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A federally mandated minimum wage is not the way to improve.



I don't necessarily disagree
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12255 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:58 pm to
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I have and do

Your dad pays for your travel like he bought your condo?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Minumim wage isn't $15/hour and they're already doing it.


They're doing it because of the push for the $15 an hour wage, which has been going on for a few years. There has always been increases in automation (see the poster's comments about taco bell earlier), but when the push for $15 an hour really started to get pushed is when automation really went into overdrive.

They want those systems perfected and in place before $15 an hour hits.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Chances are they make your lunch most days, maybe you should just stop eating fast food then.


I don't eat fast food.

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Then you won’t have to worry what they’re paid.


But I have to worry about my costs going up at the other businesses that will be forced to pay low skill workers more than they're worth.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:01 pm to
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They could choose to do anything. They could choose to learn a skill. They aren't forced into poverty.


This is so disenginous its stupid. That's like saying you aren't in the NBA because you just didn't work hard enough.

Look, a shite load of people are in poverty because of their own actions, but be born into living in some slum in Detroit with no father and an addict mother and 6 siblings. You routinely have no power, don't know where your next meal is coming from, and no direction. You have to take a city bus to school, and no one is making you go.

Can you lift yourself out of that situation? Absolutely, but acting like it's just some lapse in personal responsibility is bullshite
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12255 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:03 pm to
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The work they do does not justify $15 an hour.



In your opinion

Not his opinion. It's dictated by the market.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:03 pm to
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They're doing it because of the push for the $15 an hour wage, which has been going on for a few years.


There's been a push on automation for a hell of a lot longer than that.

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but when the push for $15 an hour really started to get pushed is when automation really went into overdrive.


Automation and robotics has been in overdrive since at least the early 80s

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They want those systems perfected and in place before $15 an hour hits.


They want them perfected and in place as soon as possible because it's cheaper than $7.55/hour. It has nothing to do with $15/hour
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11101 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:03 pm to
Fix the ice cream machine HAL.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29579 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Not his opinion.


The collective opinion of the value of labor

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It's dictated by the market.


No its not, it's dictated by the government
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12255 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:05 pm to
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but acting like it's just some lapse in personal responsibility is bullshite


Found the lapse in personal responsibility:
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with no father and an addict mother and 6 siblings. 
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:06 pm to
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A federally mandated minimum wage is not the way to improve.


Its retarded.

Hell, some of the countries progs want to emulated do not have min wages.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11190 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:06 pm to
Ah I forgot, we get to choose which ballsack we come out of.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't understand why the concept of personal responsibility has been lost. Being 45 years old working at a fast food place should never be a career.



So people shite on them for sitting at home on welfare, then shite on them for getting a job at a fast food restaurant and daring to ask for a livable wage and accuse them of having no personal responsibility. Is there anything this group of people could do to satisfy you titans of capitalism so you don't have to pay $2 more for your Big Mac meal?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12255 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:08 pm to
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No its not, it's dictated by the government

Holy frick are you stupid.
If flipping burgers was a labor worth $15 / hour then companies would offer that wage regardless of government set minimum wages.
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