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re: 1200 deaths KNOWN in 90 days by Phizer...FOIA docs releases... its underreported too
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:36 pm to winkchance
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:36 pm to winkchance
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Change shot to covid virus and you would be listed in the death total
There were a lot of fake news sites sharing stuff like that. I rarely saw it proven.
One i remember was in colorado murders were listed as "deaths with covid" and people freaked out. Then further research showed colorado had a separate category called "deaths due to covid" that they were not listed under.
People were outraged at people being listed as dying while they had covid, which was absolutely accurate.
Edit to add LINK
It was a murder-suicide
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 1:40 pm
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:00 pm to tigahbruh
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1200 out of how many millions administered?
Panicking about this is worse than panicking about COVID in the first place (Which has a tiny Fatality per Infected rate as well).
Get the shot or don't. Don't care. But this is non-news.
There are roughly 140 million flu vaccines given every year. An average of 9 die from it each year.
I'd say 133 years worth of flu vaccine deaths in 90 days is something worth discussing.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:03 pm to Sisyphus
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There are roughly 140 million flu vaccines given every year. An average of 9 die from it each year.
I'd say 133 years worth of flu vaccine deaths in 90 days is something worth discussing.
Wait so you are saying only 9 people that get the flu vaccine die every year? Maybe I should start taking it since it apparently prevents death
Keep in mind the OP document doesnt say 1200 were killed by the pfizer vaccine. Only that 1200 with the vaccine passed away.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:09 pm to sgallo3
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Wait so you are saying only 9 people that get the flu vaccine die every year? Maybe I should start taking it since it apparently prevents death
Jesus you liberals love to twist words to fit your warped little sense of reality.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:11 pm to bayoudude
He just compared the 9 flu deaths per year with the 1200. That isnt me twisting his words. He used those numbers in his math as if they were the same thing.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:13 pm to StTiger
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Anything at all gets reported
Get the shot, wake up with a sore neck, gets reported on vaers, even though the reason for the sore neck is because you fell asleep on the couch
Now do the same thing for Covid deaths
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:55 pm to sgallo3
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There were a lot of fake news sites sharing stuff like that. I rarely saw it proven.
You live in a dream world. Sharyl Attkisson got her first FOIA documents a few months ago and proved 47% of the numbers in Colorado were fake "Died with covid" numbers. Some people died of hear attack after having tested positive 3-9 month earlier. On person was still alive. Several car wrecks etc. She has been blocked from obtaining other records so far. LINK
But by all means live in the fantasy - really explore the space.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:04 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Keep in mind that the any death is to be reported. I know you want to think that the vaccine killed that many people, but that's simply not the case. And when you are administering something to 10s of millions of people, many/most of them old or with an existing condition, some people are going to die at some point.
Where have I heard this argument before???
You statists/shills for Big Pharma lack any and all self-awareness, don't you?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:06 pm to winkchance
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Sharyl Attkisson got her first FOIA documents a few months ago and proved 47% of the numbers in Colorado were fake "Died with covid" numbers. Some people died of hear attack after having tested positive 3-9 month earlier. On person was still alive. Several car wrecks etc. She has been blocked from obtaining other records so far. LINK
But by all means live in the fantasy - really explore the space.
Died with covid means they didnt die because of covid..... Its not a covid death. I dont have the vax. Ive had covid twice. Im also not gonna act like the vaccine is murdering people at a rate that isnt supported by facts.
You dont have to overplay your position to support it. Just say you dont support government overreach in mandating vaccines and masks. Im a libertarian but I dont hate science. I hate politicians. Science has made my life a lot better
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:08 pm to bamadontcare
Billions and Billions served
How many people have died within 90 days of eating pizza
How many people have died within 90 days of eating pizza
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:15 pm to sgallo3
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Wait so you are saying only 9 people that get the flu vaccine die every year? Maybe I should start taking it since it apparently prevents death
This isn't remotely close to what I said and you know it.
There are 3 possibilities here: 1) you're a troll, 2) your reading comprehension is poor even for the OT, or 3) you're so proud of your vaccine that you aren't even remotely open minded about data that should at the very least be evaluated.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:19 pm to Sisyphus
Then explain why you compared the number of deaths CAUSED BY the flu shot to the number of TOTAL DEATHS of people that had received the pfizer vax?
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:22 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Where have I heard this argument before???
You statists/shills for Big Pharma lack any and all self-awareness, don't you?
So you're saying it's untrue?
I'll say it again, stop equating the 1,200 number to dying from the vaccine. That's not what it is. Suggesting otherwise is being intentionally misleading.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:23 pm to sgallo3
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Then explain why you compared the number of deaths CAUSED BY the flu shot to the number of TOTAL DEATHS of people that had received the pfizer vax?
They both come from the same data source, VAERS.
Therefore they are comparable data points.
Now I can't prove that either vaccine was the cause of death, however, being that they are reported through the same system and one number is significantly higher than the other I'd say we should at least look into it.
Do you disagree?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:28 pm to Sisyphus
Yes i disagree. People are being encouraged to report to Vaers after the covid vax whereas that has never really been the case with the flu shot. Just like we are testing asymptomatic people for covid after they have the vaccine which never happens with the flu shot. I won't be getting the vaccine but without more information this really tells us nothing. This post of simple math shows how useless these numbers are
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This report shows correlation only, no causation is proven.
As of 2/28 29.38 million doses of Pfizer vaccine administered. Take it back a month to give the vaccine time to actually cause death. As of 1/28 - 10.57 million doses.
10,570,000 doses / 2 = 5,285,000 people is minimum possible with at least 1 dose.
World avg. death rate is 7.7/1000/year according to CIA Factbook. US/UK both above 8, so let's use 8 / 4 is 2 deaths per 1000 people per 3 months. Or 0.2% of people die every 3 months.
So, in 3 months 0.2% of 5,285,000 people will die = 10,570 deaths.
Being obnoxiously conservative with all the above numbers, we are still missing 9,370 deaths.
All of this really just proves you can't even get close to proving causation with the limited data provided in this report.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:38 pm to sgallo3
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Died with covid means they didnt die because of covid..... Its not a covid death.
You should let the CDC know this so they can cut their ridiculous 700K+ death toll number in half.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:39 pm to Sisyphus
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one number is significantly higher than the other I'd say we should at least look into it.
You can't just look at the deaths number between flu and covid vaccines. The number of shots administered for each is kind of important too.
For example, if 20 flu vaccines were administered and 9 people died at some point following, and 120,000,000 covid vaccines were administered and 1,200 died at some point following, which would you be more concerned about?
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:47 pm to subtle
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You should let the CDC know this so they can cut their ridiculous 700K+ death toll number in half.
They are. Its in the post on the top of this page in the link.
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Today, Colorado’s reporting 4,156 COVID deaths, these are actually deaths among cases. Then they show 3,230 deaths due to COVID, and so they’re differentiating that
Death among cases does not mean death due covid
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:50 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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You can't just look at the deaths number between flu and covid vaccines. The number of shots administered for each is kind of important too.
For example, if 20 flu vaccines were administered and 9 people died at some point following, and 120,000,000 covid vaccines were administered and 1,200 died at some point following, which would you be more concerned about?
Covid injections in the first 3 months (which is the timeframe this data is from): 99,136,707 (according to Google)
Flu vaccines on average in a year: ~120-140 million/yr
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:55 pm to bamadontcare
Number of COVID cases- 48M; number of COVID deaths 777k.
777k/48M = 1.6% mortality rate.
Number of people who’ve taken Pfizer COVID vaccine- >100M; deaths possibly attributed to Pfizer vaccine if true- 1200.
1200/100M = 0.0012% mortality rate
The math tells a compelling story.
777k/48M = 1.6% mortality rate.
Number of people who’ve taken Pfizer COVID vaccine- >100M; deaths possibly attributed to Pfizer vaccine if true- 1200.
1200/100M = 0.0012% mortality rate
The math tells a compelling story.
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