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re: 10 very fast cars slower to 60 than the Tesla S Plaid
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:54 pm to Steadyhands
Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:54 pm to Steadyhands
quote:Oh lawd, now we're comparing the luxury sedan that out-drags multi-million dollar hypercars to the TCO of a frickin' Accord.
How much does the car in OP cost? A post on the first page implied that it was 130k, is that correct?
If that is correct, you could by a brand new Honda accord and still have $90k plus left to spend on gas and oil changes over the years. You will never be more practical/cheaper in that particular ev if that's the price.
I mean, my god, is that the standard for the religion against EVs? An EV needs to do sub 2 to 60, sub 10 in the 1/4, AND be cheaper to own than a Honda Accord? With the way tech goes, that might even happen one day and then you guys will still bitch if it takes 7 minutes instead of 5 to charge for 300 miles of range.
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:25 pm to jnethe1
quote:Oh, so youre not hating but when others just give a differing opinion or correct incorrect statements they're cultists.
Y’all always do this. Damnit.
I do not hate EVs, I am simply pointing out that there are some issues with them
Makes perfect sense.
quote:So, where are all these cultists you speak of?
Anyone who reacts to facts with emotion.
quote:Weren't you the one who insinuated every Tesla owner will need to spend $22k on a battery? That's 100% inaccurate. You read one article of 1 person's encounter and assumed every owner must pay the same AND would need to replace a batter, so Yea, that's inaccurate.
Nothing that has been stated is inaccurate
quote:I think the "cultists" line more than easily proves that point when no one in this thread is doing anything 1/100th of what would be logically deemed as EV "cultist" behavior.
Yep, that was predictable. So I am the one getting pissy?
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:27 pm to Steadyhands
quote:That it's pretty darn impressive for a 4 door sedan that doubles up as a family car at the fraction of the price of the hyper cars.
So what point are you trying to make?
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:01 pm to shel311
quote:Nah man. Honda Accord
That it's pretty darn impressive for a 4 door sedan that doubles up as a family car at the fraction of the price of the hyper cars.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 8/19/22 at 10:17 pm to jnethe1
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Wow, so everything else got vastly more expensive, plus inflation, and batteries got cheaper! I have to admit, I’m impressed.
The base tech behind techy things tends to go down in price over time in large part due to economy of scale ie: a Fujitsu 42" flat panel TV was ~$20,000 in 1997. You can buy a 42" flat panel for under $150 today and a SOTA OLED is about $1300.
I am not suggesting cars will get cheaper. They consistently get more complex but the individual sub-systems tend to get cheaper over time often racing downward faster than inflation ie: airbags, GPS, ACC, ABS, touchscreen infotainment interfaces, and etc.
The economy of scale will ensure batteries get cheaper over time especially when you consider like for like.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:39 am to billjamin
The GT350R will absolutely take any Tesla on a proper track. I am not talking an oval……
The 500 only widens the gap, but, as a purist, the sound of that naturally aspirated, flat planed Voodoo V8 is unmatched. Like an angry angel.
The 500 only widens the gap, but, as a purist, the sound of that naturally aspirated, flat planed Voodoo V8 is unmatched. Like an angry angel.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:14 am to CharlesLSU
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The 500 only widens the gap, but, as a purist, the sound of that naturally aspirated, flat planed Voodoo V8 is unmatched.
The Ferrari 4.5L in the 458 at 9 grand says it can not just match but beat the 5.2L Voodoo in aural entertainment and makes more HP, it is the king of production NA FPC V8s.
133 HP per L is well amazing the Voodoo's 100 HP/L isn't chicken feed either.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:42 am to chitiger91
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Ok the Tesla got me off the red light up to 35 mph to the next light, funny how quickly they back down when there’s an on ramp and some speed to be had.
Tesla doesn’t have anything to match those cars on the track.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:01 am to DarthRebel
Plaid looks cheap as F
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:48 am to CharlesLSU
quote:
The GT350R will absolutely take any Tesla on a proper track.
And the Tesla is still a 4 door sedan. And the 350R isn't going to beat that sedan by as much as you think. Coming from someone who's lapped a 350, 350R, 500 and Plaid among many others at COTA.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:51 am to SuperOcean
quote:
I'm going Lucid Air...lose the indiscernible .8 second of 0 to 60 but get the noticable 170 miles of extra range
Lucid won’t exist in 5 years
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:03 pm to shel311
quote:
quote:
So what point are you trying to make?
That it's pretty darn impressive for a 4 door sedan that doubles up as a family car at the fraction of the price of the hyper cars.
Exactly what I said, the 0 to 60 factor. What a great reason to purchase a car.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:09 pm to Steadyhands
Ok
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:27 pm to Steadyhands
quote:Power/acceleration is a pretty critical metric for a vehicle. What are your deciding factors?
Exactly what I said, the 0 to 60 factor. What a great reason to purchase a car.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:28 pm to Steadyhands
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Exactly what I said, the 0 to 60 factor. What a great reason to purchase a car.
Are we ignoring FSD?
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:26 pm to Steadyhands
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Exactly what I said, the 0 to 60 factor. What a great reason to purchase a car.
0-60 is shorthand for power to weight ratio with a little tranny and rear drive thrown in. Honestly, 0-60 along with 1/4 ET/trap and 70-130 times are one of the major criteria I look at when buying a car even my non-performance cars or SUVs. It is just a petrol head thing. I could probably tell you the 0-60 time of every car I have owned and there have been a few.
As I have gotten older I prefer a more balance car where power/weight, handling, and braking performance match each other but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate a hooligan car which some people love. I see the plaid as a bit of an homage to cars like the 440 Magnum Cornet and Monaco, the 455 Pontiac Gran Am and the Chevelle SS454 Wagon. I remember Luca di Montezemolo when he was at the head of Ferrari at the beginning of the horsepower wars had a journo point out they were lagging behind in the power metric compared to even some 4 door saloons and he just said something like we won't sell cars with more engine than chassis like some others. Many felt it was a shot at AMG at the time. There were a lot of people that liked those AMGs that could hang the rear out and melt massive Michelins at an astonishing rate. People just like quick cars and the 0-60 metric is a good way to determine how hard you will get pinned in your seat and 2ish seconds 0-60 is getting hard to breathe territory. Plus most every half-decent driver can exploit that where very few can test the limits of a cars lateral G-force limit without calling their insurance company afterward.
0-60 may not be the most logical metric but there are a lot of people for whom it is very important and for most of those people using it can bring a grin to their face even after the shittiest day and why I think civil engineers designed the first onramp.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:49 pm to Obtuse1
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The Ferrari 4.5L in the 458 at 9 grand says it can not just match but beat the 5.2L Voodoo in aural entertainment and makes more HP, it is the king of production NA FPC V8s.
The ZO6 makes 100 more HP than the 458.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:40 pm to BuckyCheese
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The ZO6 makes 100 more HP than the 458.
Mere 120hp/liter and it is only 70hp more. I know you know that extra 13hp per liter is incredibly difficult to obtain. Also because the Speciale weighs over 350 pounds less than the Z06 they have almost identical power to weight ratios. I also would guess you know Chevrolet bought a wrecked 458 just to disassemble the engine because they knew it was the pinnacle of the type of engine they were building.
The LT6 is an incredible engine when you consider it is being built to cost, there is absolutely no denying it but it isn't the level of engine the F136 is nor can it be for the cost.
Bench racing
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:25 pm to shel311
quote:
Oh, so youre not hating but when others just give a differing opinion or correct incorrect statements they're cultists.
By me presenting facts that you do not like, you take that as me hating others? Lol
quote:
Makes perfect sense.
You can say that again.
quote:
So, where are all these cultists you speak of?
Anyone who reacts to facts with emotion.
quote:
Weren't you the one who insinuated every Tesla owner will need to spend $22k on a battery?
I said every owner? Wow, never knew that.
quote:
That's 100% inaccurate.
Tesla owner blows up his Model S with dynamite over $22,000 battery replacement
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:27 pm to DarthRebel
Pagani Zonda GOAT car
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