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re: Will Derek Carr pan out?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:33 pm to Townedrunkard
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:33 pm to Townedrunkard
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o I’m not sure how good Carr will be with this coaching staff.
Yeah, the response that "he's just had bad teams and bad coaching his whole career" is a flawed one because that's exactly what the Saints are now.
Of course I could be dead wrong but I just don't have faith in Allen. The guy has the charisma of a potato and way too risk-adverse. Payton got his players motivated and was at his best when he was rolling the dice.This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:36 pm
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:24 pm to bountyhunter
Derek Carr is no different than Phillip Rivers .. good enough to get you to 1st or maybe even 2nd round of the playoffs. Which isn't that bad
I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to grasp but our window is closed. We had nearly a decade and a half or legitimate success.. and now we will fade into the "meh" abyss
I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to grasp but our window is closed. We had nearly a decade and a half or legitimate success.. and now we will fade into the "meh" abyss
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:30 pm to jmcwhrter
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I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to grasp but our window is closed. We had nearly a decade and a half or legitimate success.. and now we will fade into the "meh" abyss
bUt ThE RaVeNs WoN A sUpErBoWl wItH tReNt dIlFer!!111!one!
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:40 pm to VictoryHill
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bUt ThE RaVeNs WoN A sUpErBoWl wItH tReNt dIlFer!!111!one!
Why do people do this
Anyway, Carr is a good QB and we should be an upper half of the nfc team and stroll into the playoffs.
If “pan out” means Super Bowl or bust, then probably not. But doesn’t mean we won’t have success.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 11:06 pm to hellsu
Yes, way to long of a post to read.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 11:24 pm to stopitnow1
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Yes, way to long of a post to read.
Really?
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:02 am to Townedrunkard
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Remember Brees really wasn’t any better in SD than what Carr is now.
I could buy this if carr was only 3-4 years into his nfl career, but he is 10 in now and never got much better.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:03 am to hellsu
And to the OP, brees and manning and several great qb’s have had shite defenses and still put up numbers and points. Carr is average to slightly above average after 10 years, thats just what he is.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:11 am to hellsu
Carr is a top 15 QB. Probably not top 10, but in that 10-15 range. Good news for us is that he’s probably top 3-5 in the NFC.
I watched the first couple of series of the Raiders v. Rams game yesterday. I was really impressed by Carr. He had a few great throws, the rest were just okay. What was more impressive was his command of the offense, calling protections, moving people around, doing the little things like completing a rollout and pretending to throw the ball after a handoff. It was competent QB play which we haven’t seen in a few years. He also scrambled for 8 yards and he’s a pretty decent athlete. Again, better than we’ve had in a while.
I was disappointed in Foster Maureau’s pass blocking. Yeesh.
TL;DR - I’m excited for competent QB play.
I watched the first couple of series of the Raiders v. Rams game yesterday. I was really impressed by Carr. He had a few great throws, the rest were just okay. What was more impressive was his command of the offense, calling protections, moving people around, doing the little things like completing a rollout and pretending to throw the ball after a handoff. It was competent QB play which we haven’t seen in a few years. He also scrambled for 8 yards and he’s a pretty decent athlete. Again, better than we’ve had in a while.
I was disappointed in Foster Maureau’s pass blocking. Yeesh.
TL;DR - I’m excited for competent QB play.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:30 am to Suntiger
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I watched the first couple of series of the Raiders v. Rams game yesterday. I was really impressed by Carr.
Watch the whole game and then get back to me. You watching a few series and getting an impression is simply misleading yourself considering he finished that game 11/20, 137 yards, 2 INT. Including this absolute fricking gem right before halftime. I keep telling you guys Carr is absolute dogshit in the red zone.
What’s also hilarious is that we keep hearing from the usual Carr dickriders like hellsu and goatmilker that Carr just needs a defense yet the Rams scored 17 and the Steelers scored 13 and Carr just shite the bed in those games. Obviously the defense just needed to allow less points for their hero “The Preacher” to get a dub.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:11 am to VictoryHill
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What’s also hilarious is that we keep hearing from the usual Carr dickriders like hellsu and goatmilker t
You are a bitch lying count m'fer. Put up my quotes on Carr. Your a troll of the highest order or the most miserable bitch arse on this site. shite pours out of your mouth concerning the Saints ever post. So put up or shut up. We will all wait tfor you to prove your not a shitbag lying backstabbing waste of everyones time.
Good luck
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:23 am to goatmilker
Everyone knows you’re a Carr dick rider, why waste my time.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:28 am to josh336
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I could buy this if carr was only 3-4 years into his nfl career, but he is 10 in now and never got much better.
Brees was 6 yrs into his career before he came to N.O. and blossomed. He was not much better than Carr previous. I'm saying Brees needed the right formula to make the next step.
Brees never threw more than 27 tds. in a season at S.D.
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And to the OP, brees and manning and several great qb’s have had shite defenses and still put up numbers and points. Carr is average to slightly above average after 10 years, thats just what he is.
Your putting words in my mouth I never put Carr on the level of Manning and Brees. All I did was try to show the dysfunctional system he has been trying to function in.
The O.P. was "Will Derek Carr pan out" meaning will he be able to do what the team brought him here to do and that was be able to take them to the next level (playoffs) not is Derek Carr Drew Brees or Manning or Mahomes. Nobody expects that. Never said it.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:33 am to VictoryHill
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Everyone knows you’re a Carr dick rider, why waste my time.
You like to put words in peoples mouth. Let's see how good you are at putting Goat's Black and Gold Dick in your mouth when the team hits the playoffs and you lose the challenge.
Better go stock up on the chapstick,
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:35 am to hellsu
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Your putting words in my mouth
Absolutely hilarious you called out another poster for using the wrong version of “too” in a post earlier before you edited it and then followed up with the wrong version of “you’re” given the context.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:36 am to hellsu
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when the team hits the playoffs and you lose the challenge
No no no lil guy. Carr has to win a playoff game.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:54 am to VictoryHill
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fricking gem right before halftime. I keep telling you guys Carr is absolute dogshit in the red zone.
I agree Carr has struggled at times in the Red Zone.
Good job at cherry picking LINK this play. For some context on the play look at the scoreboard and you will see a Raiders 10 point lead with 55 seconds left before halftime. You don't have much to lose in that scenario by launching a soft butterfly.
Not a big risk here. I'm sure he'd like to have it back.Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:56 am to VictoryHill
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why waste my time.
Because a man would put up or shut up. You do neither. So I don't know what you are except a liar.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:00 am to hellsu
How was I cherry picking when I listed his overall stats for the game and included that video because it highlighted how shite he was in the red zone?
And there was a ton to lose. Points on the board with a whole half left to play. A FG there and they win the game. Instead, CARRbage turned the ball over and halted momentum which lead them to come back and win.
And there was a ton to lose. Points on the board with a whole half left to play. A FG there and they win the game. Instead, CARRbage turned the ball over and halted momentum which lead them to come back and win.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 10:54 am to hellsu
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and defensively generated 22.6 turnovers per game
wait..... what?
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