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Why Saints should get an Offensive Genius HC
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:14 am
NFL is setup to favor high scoring offensive games. So just outscore people and get a decent DC that can get a few stops here and there. ie Drew/SP era. We should have had 3 SB if those 2 guys would have done the right things.
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Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:27 am to LAS
Explain why Kubiak couldn't do that with a healthy offense as OC with a defensive minded HC?
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:04 pm to LAS
At this point, i just want a a leader in that position the players are willing to go to war for.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:15 pm to RawDog7984
Coordinators don't have to be players run through the wall types You want your position coaches and many times head coaches to be that type. I have no problem with Kubiak this year considering he had a shitty head coach and a ridiculous number of injuries to key players. I'd assume though once we bring in a new coach he'll be gone.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:20 pm to LAS
Top 5 offenses in NFL in 2024:
Balt - HC got his start in NFL as a ST coach, then secondary coach
Det - TE Coach
Buf - Defensive coach
Wash - Defensive Coach
TB - Defensive Coach
Balt - HC got his start in NFL as a ST coach, then secondary coach
Det - TE Coach
Buf - Defensive coach
Wash - Defensive Coach
TB - Defensive Coach
Posted on 11/11/24 at 12:41 pm to Snipe
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Explain why Kubiak couldn't do that with a healthy offense as OC with a defensive minded HC?
To me its not the Kubiak can't do it, its that if he does do it, he will be someone else's HC in a year or 2 and we will have to replace him. And if that guy is good, we have to replace him to in a year or 2. And its hard to constantly find the next up and comer.
If you hire an offensive minded HC then you have that guy for as long as you want and if he can find a good DC then it much less likely he gets poached.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:03 pm to LAS
Surprisingly...
Offensive stats:
16th in Total YPG
16th in Passing YPG
13th in Rushing YPG
19th in Rushing YPA
17th in 3rd down%
T-11th in Giveaways
That's with Carr missing 3 games, Shaheed missing 4 games, Olave missing 2 games (not including the concussions KO'ing him), and Hill missing 4.
Did not expect us to be average considering how bad we played vs Tampa, vs Denver, @ LAC
Offensive stats:
16th in Total YPG
16th in Passing YPG
13th in Rushing YPG
19th in Rushing YPA
17th in 3rd down%
T-11th in Giveaways
That's with Carr missing 3 games, Shaheed missing 4 games, Olave missing 2 games (not including the concussions KO'ing him), and Hill missing 4.
Did not expect us to be average considering how bad we played vs Tampa, vs Denver, @ LAC
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:35 pm to LAS
Why wouldn't we want a Offensive Genius HC!
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:13 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Ben Johnson didn't get poached.
I get the premise and not saying it couldn't happen but IMO coaches getting poached is overrated. If they're doing it right you'll have a guy on your staff that you can rollin to his position if he gets a HC job.
If all your coordinators are getting poached into HC roles or your assistants into coordinator roles you're doing things right. JMO but I don't this the Saints are at that point yet. Even with Kubiak. Rizzi may be the first to get poached if he does well with this shot.
I get the premise and not saying it couldn't happen but IMO coaches getting poached is overrated. If they're doing it right you'll have a guy on your staff that you can rollin to his position if he gets a HC job.
If all your coordinators are getting poached into HC roles or your assistants into coordinator roles you're doing things right. JMO but I don't this the Saints are at that point yet. Even with Kubiak. Rizzi may be the first to get poached if he does well with this shot.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:46 pm to Snipe
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Ben Johnson didn't get poached.
He is an outlier, not the rule and He will likely take a HC job this year. Like I said, it may not be every year but good OCs quickly become HCs.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:50 pm to LAS
So, you think it's a good idea to hire an offensive genius.
Why didn't I think of that?
Why didn't I think of that?
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:57 pm to Snipe
Ben Johnson turned down jobs. That was on him but he definitely would have been poached if he wanted to.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:14 pm to TheBoogeyman
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Ben Johnson turned down jobs. That was on him but he definitely would have been poached if he wanted to.
Exactly, Proves my point that just because a guy succeeds doesnt mean hes automatically done at the first calling.
It's probably a moot point because the new HC will or should have the call on his own staff. But it looks like Loomis will be hiring him so who really know what that's going to look like. I'm less than enthusiastic to be honest. I'll increase my optimism level if loomis is fired or widthwise leaves his position prior to the HC hire.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:22 pm to Snipe
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It's probably a moot point because the new HC will or should have the call on his own staff. But it looks like Loomis will be hiring him so who really know what that's going to look like. I'm less than enthusiastic to be honest. I'll increase my optimism level if loomis is fired or widthwise leaves his position prior to the HC hire.
I would too. I feel like if you look at the teams that are currently really successful there is a pretty strong identity across what kinda of players they go after as a FO, and that usually pairs well with the coach’s personality.
I feel like our identity was keep clinging to the Brees/CSP era even though it becomes a worse and worse cover band every year.
Like what is Mickey’s vision for a franchise at this point?
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:28 pm to htran90
quote:
Surprisingly...
Offensive stats:
16th in Total YPG
16th in Passing YPG
13th in Rushing YPG
19th in Rushing YPA
17th in 3rd down%
T-11th in Giveaways
quote:
Did not expect us to be average
Dont take the cheese.
Any good was really from the first two weeks. Yards are almost meanigless given the script of the majority of our games.
Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:33 pm to GynoSandberg
Even 16th in ppg.
While the first two games skew it, 21ppg with Carr and Kamara the past 2 games has been pleasant.
While the first two games skew it, 21ppg with Carr and Kamara the past 2 games has been pleasant.
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