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re: Why is Shough not getting more love from National Media?

Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:15 pm to
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I think people don’t realize you’re talking about Dart


That's a safe bet
Posted by Marrero
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:21 pm to
Key on hasn’t had a crazy game yet for delusional saints fans
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Key on hasn’t had a crazy game yet for delusional saints fans


Key on!!!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:22 pm to
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I prefer facts and data driven intel.

Again, you can do that and give Dart the edge

Which is why I included the disclaimer about how this is fool's gold for long-term QB development
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:23 pm to
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. I didn't mention Dart a-hole

Then why did you reply to a post about Dart giving examples to counter my criticism of Dart?
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:32 pm to
Future production is conjecture. Current w/l is not.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:43 pm to
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Certainly never worked for KC and the Bills or the Eagles or the Ravens or...


So you’re a Dart guy? He was saying Dart isn’t likely to project out.
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:53 pm to
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High level and Sanders, haha good one. Dude was down 31-17 to the worst team in the league. Got garbage yards and lost.


Sanders is most certainly not better than Shough. But those weren't garbage yards. He was leading his team on a potential comeback win, and he almost succeeded.
Posted by BigEasy92
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:20 pm to
Sanders is a joke.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 1:29 pm to
he doesn't need to be "better" than any other rookie qb right now, IMO. We've seen enough to know we don't need to spend another draft pick on a QB and that alone is huge.

2026 went from looking like a generational QB class to a pretty awful one. Hitting on Shough in 25, especially considering the moves to get him, is a big win.
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:46 pm to
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He has beaten a team with a winning record and a team at .500

1 game above 500. Like this is something meaningful. Had he beaten the Rams it would mean he beat a winning team. Shough has only played average to below average teams besides the rams which was his first start. We have to wait until next year to see how he performs vs a real team.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:50 pm to
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Like this is something meaningful. Had he beaten the Rams


The Panthers team that just beat the Rams, who the Saints swept this year. That Panthers team?
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:54 pm to
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The Panthers team that just beat the Rams, who the Saints swept this year. That Panthers team?

Yep that same garbage team. Panthers aren't a good team by any means. Bryce Young sucks. Average at best on a good day. Like I said, had WE beaten the Rams, but we didn't.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 2:55 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:57 pm to
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1 game above 500. Like this is something meaningful.


For Buffalo? No.
For a team where we have been the last 5 years?
Absolutely.
Sorry you can't see.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:14 pm to
Any win by a rookie QB with this roster should be celebrated. Two came on the road vs division rivals. Should’ve beat Miami on the road too.

Shough has 3 wins in 6 starts. Dart, Ward, Sheduer have 5 combined wins in 27 starts.

You’re smoking arse if you’re discounting what Shough is doing. You’re trying to veil your rattler support. It’s done bubba
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:20 pm to
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You’re smoking arse if you’re discounting what Shough is doing. You’re trying to veil your rattler support. It’s done bubba

Lmao Rattler had this team in position to win multiple times. This isn't Rattler vs Shough. This is a shite Saints team. But quit acting like he's out there performing miracles. He's beating teams worse than us. That's what he's supposed to do.

I believe he's the best QB in last years draft just from watching him.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:25 pm to
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I believe he's the best QB in last years draft just from watching him.


Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:37 pm to

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Lmao Rattler had this team in position to win multiple times


He’s 1-13

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This is a shite Saints team


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He's beating teams worse than us.


You think Carolina and Tampa are worse than us?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:45 pm to
What a take. “Nothing Shough does is impressive because he didn’t beat the best team in the NFL on the road coming off a bye in his first start.”

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:45 pm to
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He's beating teams worse than us. That's what he's supposed to do.


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