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Why is Jo-Lonn Dunbar not being given a chance to start at Sam?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:06 am
Vilma, Casillas, and Dunbar could very well be our top 3 LB's on the roster. I know Dunbar is filling a valuable role on team as backup middle but frick, everyone else is getting the opportunity to start at sam, dunbar seems like he was ruled out early.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:08 am to Chad504boy
we need speed at the SAM, which Dunbar does not have. He did line up at MLB on friday and looked ok though.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:13 am to Mouth
possibly, didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle. I know Ingram is pretty athletic if healthy, Herring might be a balanced good mix of skills.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:22 am to Chad504boy
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Herring might be a balanced good mix of skills.
yeah all signs point to Herring being a quality LB, as good or better than Shanle. I'm counting on Casillas to be huge this year along with Tez Wilson late into the season.
I mean, did you see Tez friday night? He's built like a brick shithouse. the wing span on the dude is insane.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:28 am to Mouth
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Herring being a quality LB, as good or better than Shanle
he looked suprisingly athletic.
Speedy guy. Looks to have some range.
Excited to see some depth at our LBer positions
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:29 am to thedice20
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looked suprisingly athletic.
he's white so its a surprise?
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:31 am to Chad504boy
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he's white so its a surprise?

if its refering to the gridiron, then yes.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:45 am to thedice20
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he looked suprisingly athletic.
Speedy guy. Looks to have some range.
Excited to see some depth at our LBer positions
Well, he's a converted Safety that excels in coverage, specifically drop zone, so I'd be pretty surprised if he wasn't athletic. I would be more concerned with his physicality vs the run. He looked fine to me.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:48 am to Fun Bunch
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he's a converted Safety
Exactly
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:12 am to Chad504boy
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didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle.
Scott Shanle 4.72
Jo-Lonn Dunbar 4.85
LINK
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:25 am to TigerinATL
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Scott Shanle 4.72
Jo-Lonn Dunbar 4.85
LINK
I question where that site gets its #'s from.
They've got Jenkins 40 time listed at a flat 4.40 which he didn't even do at OSU's fast track
Also, if those #'s come from combine/prodays then I'm willing bet good money that 32 year old Scott Shanle is shade slower than 22 year old Scott Shanle that ran the 4.72
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:44 am to jacks40
The reason is because Dunbar's natural position is the Mike and since Marvin M. is gone they need a backup for Vilma which is Dunbar who fits in better at Mike.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:11 pm to Chad504boy
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didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle.
It seems like he has good speed on special teams, but he seems slow when he plays on defense. Not sure if he hesitates or if he just doesn't have the speed. Either way, I think MLB might be his better position in the NFL.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 2:24 pm to Suntiger
He was a undersized MLB (similar to Vilma) coming out of college. I think they like him more than Marvin Mitchell so he's now the #2 MLB. I think last year was his real opportunity to make it at either side OLB. He started at SLB until early Dec. when he went IR with a hammy. He obviously didn't impress enough as evidenced by bringing in so many other LBs.
reviewing his college scouting report-
Undersized but feisty middle linebacker who was the leader of a very good Boston College defense this past season, who was was named a team captain when only a junior and a first-time starter, indicating how much his teammates thought of the defender.
As a senior, Dunbar was a major part of a unit which led the country at stopping the run for most of last year’s campaign. His stature, at 6 feet even and 231 pounds, belies the toughness with which he approaches the game. It should be noted that some of his size limitations were hidden due to the fact the Golden Eagles had monstrous run stuffers protecting their middle linebacker over the past two seasons.
During his career at Boston College, Dunbar's production outmatched potential with 269 total tackles in 25 career starts. Injuries were an issue, as he was never able to complete an entire season as a starter. For example, an ankle injury hampered his play for a stretch of his senior campaign.
Athletically, Dunbar does not automatically jump off the screen. His overall speed and agility are average, posting forty yard dash times in the high 4.8’s, as well as a 4.45 short shuttle and 7.05 three cone drill. Dunbar numbers might not leap off the page, nor is he the most physically talented player on the field at any given time, but he is a natural athlete - this is a linebacker who was recruited as a running back.
Dunbar could be a special player: a linebacker which displayed a nose for the ball leading to four touchdowns throughout his defensive career, a playmaker who relied on his instincts, attitude, and guts to get the job done.
Good enough for NFL teams to give him a look at a late round prospect.
reviewing his college scouting report-
Undersized but feisty middle linebacker who was the leader of a very good Boston College defense this past season, who was was named a team captain when only a junior and a first-time starter, indicating how much his teammates thought of the defender.
As a senior, Dunbar was a major part of a unit which led the country at stopping the run for most of last year’s campaign. His stature, at 6 feet even and 231 pounds, belies the toughness with which he approaches the game. It should be noted that some of his size limitations were hidden due to the fact the Golden Eagles had monstrous run stuffers protecting their middle linebacker over the past two seasons.
During his career at Boston College, Dunbar's production outmatched potential with 269 total tackles in 25 career starts. Injuries were an issue, as he was never able to complete an entire season as a starter. For example, an ankle injury hampered his play for a stretch of his senior campaign.
Athletically, Dunbar does not automatically jump off the screen. His overall speed and agility are average, posting forty yard dash times in the high 4.8’s, as well as a 4.45 short shuttle and 7.05 three cone drill. Dunbar numbers might not leap off the page, nor is he the most physically talented player on the field at any given time, but he is a natural athlete - this is a linebacker who was recruited as a running back.
Dunbar could be a special player: a linebacker which displayed a nose for the ball leading to four touchdowns throughout his defensive career, a playmaker who relied on his instincts, attitude, and guts to get the job done.
Good enough for NFL teams to give him a look at a late round prospect.
Posted on 8/15/11 at 2:43 pm to blueslover
How many LBer's are they gonna keep on active roster?? Anybody know? I would think at least 6....
So any guess who gets left out?
Vilma, Dunbar, Herring, Shanle, Casillas, Wilson, Bussey, & Ingram.....
So any guess who gets left out?
Vilma, Dunbar, Herring, Shanle, Casillas, Wilson, Bussey, & Ingram.....
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:17 pm to Mouth
i agree he will help fill in and he is aggressive



Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:34 pm to Chad504boy
I've said it before. Herring is a Scott Fujita type player, only more skilled.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:02 am to Chad504boy
Because he was given several opportunities to start. He is not agile enough, and cannot cover. He also blows his assignments. The staff has stated that he will be better served at his more natural position in the middle.

Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:15 am to infantry1026
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Because he was given several opportunities to start. He is not agile enough, and cannot cover. He also blows his assignments. The staff has stated that he will be better served at his more natural position in the middle
Pretty much sums it up. Definitely an upgrade over Mitchell in the middle.
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