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re: Why I think we shouldn't trade for Malcolm Butler
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:17 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:17 pm to bonethug0108
I think your wrong when u say it was down to them and us. I don't think we made him an offer like jacksonville
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:32 pm to bonethug0108
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As far the Pats choosing Gilmore argument, it is because they are very familiar with him and they feel there will be little to no drop off from Butler, and they can use Butler to get something they don't have: a first or second round pick.
They aren't letting him go because he sucks. They are letting him go because they knew they could get a high pick for him, so you pay a FA instead.
They do not want to pay Butler, it is that simple. He is a 27 year old CB looking for to get paid. The Pats will let someone else to that.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:08 pm to djrunner
The Pats get Gilmore, and can get Butler for $4m this year if Butler sign his tender.
Pats win if Butler signs the tender whether they trade Butler or keep him one more year.
Pats win if Butler signs the tender whether they trade Butler or keep him one more year.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:50 pm to blueslover
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and plenty of upper end CB picks that have been total flops or not starter material... a quick review of recent upper end 1st Rd failures- 2015 #11 Trae Waynes still not a starter in Minny 2014 #8 Justin Gilbert can't even find a job now, many say he just wanted the money and DGAF 2013 #9 Dee Milliner flamed out and cannot get a job either #12 DJ Hayden, Raiders didnt even pick up his 5th year, one year deal in Detroit to try again 2012 # 6 Claiborne you all know, more the injury bug but still Dallas said no more after 5 years. Trying on a one year deal with NYJ
We are acting as if Butler is a can't miss....There have been as many FA flops as draft bust...LINK
IMO Butler is a system guy and if the Seahawks would have RAN the ball, No one here would even know who Butler is.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:01 am to ChaChingBoyd
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if the Seahawks would have RAN the ball, No one here would even know who Butler is.
That's not true. He played like a top ten CB last season. Whether or not that has to do with the system he plays in is up for debate.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:19 am to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:27 am to ChaChingBoyd
He has Sherman at 1 and Talib at 9. Talib is the only player on that list to not allow a TD and he gave up the second(?) fewest catches and yards.
Also added a couple of picks to that.
Also added a couple of picks to that.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:48 am to bonethug0108
Nevermind this about Talib...
And where is Butler? I understand this may not be a perfect CB rating...How can anyone say Butler is not a gamble anymore than a draft pick? FA signings bust as much as draft picks...have we forgot about Byrd?
FYI: just asking who has Butler rated as a top 10 CB?
He is not worth the contract he wants plus whatever the trade compensation is.
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But sitting out for three weeks midseason kept him out of the top five. Talib was at his best prior to his back injury
And where is Butler? I understand this may not be a perfect CB rating...How can anyone say Butler is not a gamble anymore than a draft pick? FA signings bust as much as draft picks...have we forgot about Byrd?
FYI: just asking who has Butler rated as a top 10 CB?
He is not worth the contract he wants plus whatever the trade compensation is.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:52 am
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:25 am to ChaChingBoyd
PFF rated him as the 7th best CB.
I'm not a huge fan of getting Butler but he did play really well last year.
I'm not a huge fan of getting Butler but he did play really well last year.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 1:27 am
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