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re: What’s our current record with Shough starting day one?

Posted on 11/10/25 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Perhaps the path he took to get here is the reason he looked good.

I’d be wary of setting yourself up for disappointment. His development won’t be linear, he will lose to some of these teams that fans think he should win. There will be stinkets. The deck is still stacked against him with this roster, so just stay cool


Absolutely this
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29827 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Perhaps the path he took to get here is the reason he looked good. I’d be wary of setting yourself up for disappointment. His development won’t be linear, he will lose to some of these teams that fans think he should win. There will be stinkets. The deck is still stacked against him with this roster, so just stay cool


Yea, I agree with this. It definitely has taken the pressure off him and he doesn’t have to look over his shoulders. We are definitely going to lose games because the roster isn’t there but us losing while him looking good is the best case scenario because we need impact guys.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31822 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 4:33 pm to
Doesn't matter what age. Bad habits form and because he didn't know how to prep or what to expect, he was bound to form some bad ones.

Hell he still might but at least he had 8 weeks of prep. Patrick Mahomes even said so himself that time was invaluable.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7017 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:51 am to
4-6
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
4881 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:04 pm to
3-7

Oyster was going to be raw for the first few weeks anyway.


KM did the right think sitting him until we couldn't do the usually 7-9 8-8 record and not get in the playoffs or upgrade with blue chips.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:09 pm to
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What’s our current record with Shough starting day one?


doesn't matter.

he wasn't ready. giving a kid time is best for his career.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
27885 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:39 pm to
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KM did the right think sitting him


I agree but I would like to hear from some of the experts here that told us we completely wasted the 40th pick on a QB that will never play. Not partially wasted the 40th pick, COMPLETELY wasted the 40th pick.
Posted by saintlad74
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
1089 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 4:44 pm to
Well I think the Bears and Buccaneers game were partly Rattler's fault , so possible 2 games there.

I think we could have a shot against the Cardinals if he played like he did against Carolina.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
7474 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to
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It wasn’t clear in preseason is the issue. Game wise I didn’t see much difference.


The upside for Shough was ABSOLUTELY head and shoulders above Rattler. They were about even in every other way (I will give you that)…..but if they were that close and Shough had more upside, common sense would indicate that you go with the upside.

Especially being that he is a 26yo rookie that you wanted, specifically, for his maturity and that he had faced adversity.

In the end, what’s done is done, but it doesn’t make much sense to draft him specifically for his ability to deal with this kind of situation/adversity…….then protect him from it

I think that we have seen KM make some questionable decisions with personnel, playcalling, time management, and some of the practice intensity stuff in camp. That said we have to remember that he is a rookie HC that is trying to figure himself out as a HC. I think he will figure it out.

One thing to look at is that, by all accounts, this locker room is still all in……even through this season not producing much in the win department. That’s a credit to the staff (at least as of now).
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29827 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:48 pm to
I agree, but like you said what’s done is done. Maybe the bad start will help us out come draft time.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 6:49 pm
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
7474 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:13 pm to
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I agree, but like you said what’s done is done. Maybe the bad start will help us out come draft time.


Yep, I was really worried that Moore was going to wait until the after the bye to make the switch…..which would have been absolutely stupid. Having him play a good bit of the 2nd half of Tampa and start last weekend…….at least gave them some game film to look at and make adjustments.

There were some in the local media saying “5-6 games will be plenty to evaluate Shough”, and I kept saying “aren’t y’all the ones saying that wasn’t enough to evaluate Rattler”?

I actually think the evaluation part can happen in that time, but if he is the guy……let him get through a lot of the growing pains THIS year. That’s why I was against Rattler starting at all. If Rattler had been a seasoned veteran that Shough could sit behind and learn from, fine, but that wasn’t the case.

I understand his premise behind doing it this way….. But I think the experience would have been more valuable IMO.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 11:45 am
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