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re: We kind of cant go wrong at 8
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:24 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:24 pm to Lester Earl
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You can say the same thing about the defensive line. Davenport and Turner are busts
They aren’t on the team anymore. If they were, and even league-average, let’s say, I’d see your point.
Penning isn’t on the team anymore. Neither is Rick Leonard. What’s your point?
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What should we prioritize? My answer to that question is protecting your franchise QB.
You have to mix need with value and that does not come with OL at pick 8 in this draft.
Front 7, Love, Caleb Downs
RB is the about the least value you can get in a top 10 pick.
Downs is good enough of a player you have to take him if he falls to you. But considering our safeties aren’t as bad as some other positions, it’s not as much of a value as a position we have terrible players at. Which is a decent amount of positions.
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my point is that if you are picking in the top 10, I think you have to set your eyes towards finding a generational type talent, and that is Love. Not a RT that might have to move to Guard
Great, we will get a generational talent that we waste because we can’t block for him. And we will have Rattler as our QB for half the season because our QB gets killed.
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Because of our OL.
The OL is more than serviceable when McCoy is healthy.
Okay, you have to be trolling here. Our IOL is absolutely trash!
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And you could argue that it hurts Shough's development by being forced to use that RB.
Jesus. I forget why I don’t ever read this board
I agree with you here. This is kinda dumb.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:26 pm to Dantheman504
I was laughing at the notion that he would have to carry the ball 25x a game to justify that draft position
The league leader gets about 19 carries per game on average.
Love could get 15carries + 5 catches & he’s at 20 touches a game which is perfectly justifiable
The league leader gets about 19 carries per game on average.
Love could get 15carries + 5 catches & he’s at 20 touches a game which is perfectly justifiable
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:29 pm to Suntiger
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Okay, you have to be trolling here. Our IOL is absolutely trash!
Great, so grab a guard later in the draft. If there was a generational guard to pick at 8 like there is RB, I’d say pick him. But there isn’t
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:49 pm to Lester Earl
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Love could get 15carries + 5 catches & he’s at 20 touches a game which is perfectly justifiable
If we didn't have about 10 more important positions of need I'd agree. And 3 of those needs can have a direct correlation to the success/ impact of Love.
You are still trying to justify using a top 8 pick on someone who will get 20-30 plays and rely on other positions vs using the top 8 pick on defense/ OL who are playing 50+ snaps and not relying on other positions for their success.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:11 pm to Dantheman504
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If we didn't have about 10 more important positions
Yea, so keep over-drafting mid offensive lineman! Weeeeeeeee
That’ll really shape the roster up!
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
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Yea, so keep over-drafting mid offensive lineman! Weeeeeeeee
That’ll really shape the roster up!
A decent OL and mid RB can be more effective than adding the #1 RB with a garbage OL.
I'm not saying that we should draft OL but I am saying that drafting a RB might be the worst position to draft including kicker when you look at our roster holes and the issues this year.
For comparison the impact of a kicker this year may be 1-2 wins while RB impact would have been 0 because our OL was so bad.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:37 pm to MSCGA
Bell is out for the next season I’d assume with an ACL.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:06 pm to Dantheman504
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For comparison the impact of a kicker this year may be 1-2 wins while RB impact would have been 0 because our OL was so bad.
There is no way to accurately quantify that. What a crazy take.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:18 pm to Lester Earl
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There is no way to accurately quantify that. What a crazy take.
It is not a crazy take. Are you saying that if we had a better kicker to start this season we wouldn't have won anymore games? And also that if we had a better RB we would have one more games? Thinking that take is crazy is a crazy take.
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You are still trying to justify using a top 8 pick on someone who will get 20-30 plays and rely on other positions vs using the top 8 pick on defense/ OL who are playing 50+ snaps and not relying on other positions for their success.
Nothing really matters past this. Its a pretty simple understanding of overall impact and why it would be a bad move.
DL makes other defensive players better, OL makes other offensive players better. A kicker can even change the game. A RB provides the smallest overall team impact out of any single position we could possibly draft.
A 7th rd RB has a good chance to have better stats than Love if we draft an OL Rd 1 vs drafting Love Rd 1 and not adding an OL.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:51 pm to Dantheman504
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DL makes other defensive players better, OL makes other offensive players better. A kicker can even change the game. A RB provides the smallest overall team impact out of any single position we could possibly draft.
You are trying to make an argument in a vacuum and that is just not how the draft or evaluation works.
Do you think chase young is more valuable than Christian mccaffery?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:59 pm to Dantheman504
quote:I understand the positional value argument, but this is dumb. And of course we can add OL outside the 1st round.
A 7th rd RB has a good chance to have better stats than Love if we draft an OL Rd 1 vs drafting Love Rd 1 and not adding an OL.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:01 pm to Lsujacket66
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We kind of cant go wrong
Of course we can. We’re the Saints.
Have you not watched for the past 58 years? Lol
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:30 pm to Lester Earl
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you think chase young is more valuable than Christian mccaffery?
To our team, yes he is for multiple reasons. With that question it makes me think you’d trade Chase for him? That’s crazy.
1. Cap charge
2. Lack of adequate replacement on our team
3. McCaffery is wholly unimpressive when you consider he’s gone long stretches with replacement level production
He’s probably going to retire in 2-3 years looking at his age
Chase could be playing for the saints another decade
Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:34 pm to Proximo
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To our team, yes he is for multiple reasons. With that question it makes me think you’d trade Chase for him?
Oh lord
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McCaffery is wholly unimpressive when you consider he’s gone long stretches with replacement level production
U started drinking early huh
The HOF RB had stretches of replacement level production and not the guy who’s basically been a replacement level player his whole career lol
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:30 pm to Lsujacket66
Way to many needs to even consider a RB
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:15 pm to Proximo
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To our team, yes he is for multiple reasons. With that question it makes me think you’d trade Chase for him? That’s crazy.
What the frick did I stumble into?
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