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This draft sucks
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:49 am
I’ve been crunching the all-22, and I can confidently say this draft is extremely underwhelming. Of course I would enjoy having the #10 pick anyway.
I see 2 top tier, elite talents- Will Anderson and Jalen Carter. That’s it.
All 4 QBs expected to be drafted high would be behind recent highly drafted QBs, except probably Zach Wilson. Lawrence, Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Fields, Kyler- all better prospects. I like Mac Jones better that Levis and Richardson too. Trey Lance is an incomplete.
Don’t see any top tier WRs or OL and the defensive player drop off after Carter and Anderson is significant. The EDGE from Texas Tech is the only other with elite potential but he’s raw. DB class isn’t great, LB class is nonexistent.
Again, not saying not having a first(for now) is okay, just a general observation.
I see 2 top tier, elite talents- Will Anderson and Jalen Carter. That’s it.
All 4 QBs expected to be drafted high would be behind recent highly drafted QBs, except probably Zach Wilson. Lawrence, Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Fields, Kyler- all better prospects. I like Mac Jones better that Levis and Richardson too. Trey Lance is an incomplete.
Don’t see any top tier WRs or OL and the defensive player drop off after Carter and Anderson is significant. The EDGE from Texas Tech is the only other with elite potential but he’s raw. DB class isn’t great, LB class is nonexistent.
Again, not saying not having a first(for now) is okay, just a general observation.
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:51 am to DBG
that's why I've been saying I'd rather have future first round picks than one this year
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:59 am to DBG
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The EDGE from Texas Tech is the only other with elite potential but he’s raw.
So you're saying we're definitely trading up to get this guy?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:00 am to UpstairsComputer
he’s 6’6’’ 275…so yesPosted on 1/20/23 at 10:04 am to DBG
The QB's are underwhelming to me.
CJ Stroud could be another Fields.
I don't get all the hype for Levis either.
Bryce Young size has me concerned as well.
Richardson cannot read a defense and really would have benefitted from another year at Fla.
CJ Stroud could be another Fields.
I don't get all the hype for Levis either.
Bryce Young size has me concerned as well.
Richardson cannot read a defense and really would have benefitted from another year at Fla.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:08 am to nicholastiger
what pisses me off are the people like Ross Jackson that have Saints picking Hendon Hooker with a potential SP to Broncos trade
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:11 am to nicholastiger
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CJ Stroud could be another Fields.
two completely different players and play styles. apples to oranges.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:12 am to nicholastiger
Stroud is the best passer by a good bit in my opinion but he has really concerning issues with pressure and creativity.
Young has elite creativity and elusiveness but he’s REALLY small and his arm strength looked off to me this year. I suspect he’ll measure small hands too.
Levis has Superman traits but was a train wreck this year. Totally betting on potential with him but I’ve heard 2-3 times now that he’s QB1 on many boards.
Richardson has the best total skill set, imo. But his accuracy is a big issue. I actually think he has the best throwing mechanics but he’s totally inconsistent with his footwork and he only throws fastballs. He could be fixed, not sure Levis can.
Hendon Hooker is a no go for me. Only reads half the field due to the gimmick offense he played in. Average traits(maybe above average accuracy to be fair). Knee injury probably makes him miss most of next year, meaning he’ll be 26 before he’s 100% ready to play. Pass.
Young has elite creativity and elusiveness but he’s REALLY small and his arm strength looked off to me this year. I suspect he’ll measure small hands too.
Levis has Superman traits but was a train wreck this year. Totally betting on potential with him but I’ve heard 2-3 times now that he’s QB1 on many boards.
Richardson has the best total skill set, imo. But his accuracy is a big issue. I actually think he has the best throwing mechanics but he’s totally inconsistent with his footwork and he only throws fastballs. He could be fixed, not sure Levis can.
Hendon Hooker is a no go for me. Only reads half the field due to the gimmick offense he played in. Average traits(maybe above average accuracy to be fair). Knee injury probably makes him miss most of next year, meaning he’ll be 26 before he’s 100% ready to play. Pass.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:16 am to DBG
Levis and Richardson are QBs that'll either make franchises or get GMS fired
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:20 am to BilJ
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get GMS fired
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:42 am to UpstairsComputer
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The EDGE from Texas Tech is the only other with elite potential but he’s raw
Is he also often injured? Because, if so, hes our kind of guy
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:43 am to DBG
So, while it does suck that the Saints don't have their #10 pick this year; are you suggesting it may end up working out that they have Olave & Penning instead of 1 of them and the #10 pick?
Obviously, this will depend on how Penning works out with his injuries.
Obviously, this will depend on how Penning works out with his injuries.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:46 am to DBG
quote:Been there done that with Davenport and Turner. No thanks!
The EDGE from Texas Tech is the only other with elite potential but he’s raw.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:48 am to Weekend Warrior79
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So, while it does suck that the Saints don't have their #10 pick this year; are you suggesting it may end up working out that they have Olave & Penning instead of 1 of them and the #10 pick?
Obviously, this will depend on how Penning works out with his injuries.
Ask yourself this. Would Penning have gone 10th overall in this draft if he were in it. The answer is a resounding no.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:55 am to DBG
One thing to consider about Levis is he lost a crap load of receivers from 2021 (79% of this total completions). 4 of his top 5 receivers in 2022 were freshmen. Despite this, he raised his passer rating and only went down from 66.0% comp to 65.4% comp. He basically didn't use his legs in 2022 either after being a good runner in 2021; probably protecting himself. Also, Kentucky was an absolute offensive train wreck in the bowl without him, 0 pts and 168 total yards
Posted on 1/20/23 at 10:58 am to Mulkey Man
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Ask yourself this. Would Penning have gone 10th overall in this draft if he were in it. The answer is a resounding no.
Not sure you can say it would be a resounding no. He was rated as a mid 1st rounder in 2022 and went 19th. If this draft is grading down like OP is suggesting, he may very well fall just outside of the top 10.
Only place I can find with 2023 draft grades is NFLDraft Buzz. They had him with a grade of a 90 in 2022, that would have him tied at 11 in this years draft
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:00 am to hsfolk
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what pisses me off are the people like Ross Jackson that have Saints picking Hendon Hooker with a potential SP to Broncos trade
I’m not repelled by the idea of getting Hooker. But he can be had in the 2nd round.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:09 am to msstate7
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One thing to consider about Levis is he lost a crap load of receivers from 2021 (79% of this total completions).
This happened to Dan Marino and why Miami was able to take him at the end of the first after their super bowl run with David Woodly.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:14 am to DBG
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Don’t see any top tier WRs
That dumbass Loomis using our first last year!!!!1111
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:14 am to Mulkey Man
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Ask yourself this. Would Penning have gone 10th overall in this draft if he were in it. The answer is a resounding no.
how do you know that. In college he may not have gotten hurt. He may have gone top 10 in this draft, or at least not far behind it. There's no way of knowing if its a no, or resounding no as you put it.
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