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re: The Vele trade
Posted on 12/15/25 at 7:51 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 12/15/25 at 7:51 am to Chad504boy
quote:
you are a complete fricking tool bag and only show up here when things are shitty and you think you have some fricking brilliant input to shite on the organization about something. you offer nothing else.
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 7:52 am to Vacherie Saint
Except it's in no way true 
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:08 am to NIH
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Mate, he was traded for a fourth round pick. If he’s WR3 (he is looking more like a 2 with Shough) that is good value
I still stand by what I said in the original Vele trade thread. For one round earlier we could have had a true number one receiver. Not a maybe #3. Everyone wants us to burn a first on a receiver now.
If he leaves b/c we couldn’t afford him, we get the third back in a comp pick. Or you franchise him for a year. Either way he helps develop our young qb.
Loomis essentially traded out Vele for Shaheed. They were traded for essentially the same trade compensation. So I guess it was a great move if you view them as equal players but the experts on here said Shaheed was getting 25 million this offseason. I doubt Vele would get a contract like that if he hit free agency this year.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 8:09 am
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:14 am to Townedrunkard
Muh Pickens. You’re a broken record.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:17 am to Townedrunkard
That's why they traded him; they're not going to pay him.
Him getting traded has nothing to do with acquiring a large target, which is what the Saints were missing.
Him getting traded has nothing to do with acquiring a large target, which is what the Saints were missing.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
According to ChatGPT, the average 4th round pick has a 2.7 year career. I think vele is a safe bet to last that long
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:21 am to t00f
Why can't people here just admit when they were wrong? He's worked out; so far he's worth the pick they traded for him. That's what picks are for: turning draft picks into players who contribute. You guys who poo-pooed it just assumed since the Saints made a trade that it was automatically bad. You knew nothing about the player himself; probably barely knew his name before he was on the roster. Just say, "yeah, was wrong on that one. Moving on." Nope, can't do that. Not admitting you're wrong makes you Skip Bayless.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:23 am to Townedrunkard
PFF ratings..
Shaheed 67.4 (56/88)
Vele 73.1 (33/88)
Shaheed 67.4 (56/88)
Vele 73.1 (33/88)
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:23 am to msstate7
Thank you for the non-responsive post
The reasonable best case scenario involves Vele lasting 4+ years in the NFL
The reasonable best case scenario involves Vele lasting 4+ years in the NFL
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:24 am to bstaceyau19
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. That's what picks are for: turning draft picks into players who contribute.
When they contribute is the issue
quote:
You guys who poo-pooed it just assumed since the Saints made a trade that it was automatically bad. You knew nothing about the player himself; probably barely knew his name before he was on the roster.
I streamed him a ton in fantasy last year my dude.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:27 am to bstaceyau19
It's the same mentality with hating TS: too old, skiddish in pocket, injury prone, etc.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:30 am to bstaceyau19
And the most ridiculous part of it is this is an anonymous board. Who TF cares?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:33 am to t00f
quote:
It's the same mentality with hating TS:
Outside of an couple Ratler fan boys I'm not sure who "hated" Shough
A lot of the concern also was when Carr was still on the team and expected to be our quarterback for this year and likely next year. Basically Shough had to start this year and be good to make it worth it, and that ultimately did happen, but it seemed to be quite unlikely on the day of the draft. A lot of things had to align for that to happen.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
No, there were plenty that were pissed that we spent a 2nd on TS.
Off-season that noise continued.
At the time of drafting him, I did not know much, but did a deep dive, which resulted in really liking the pick.
Off-season that noise continued.
At the time of drafting him, I did not know much, but did a deep dive, which resulted in really liking the pick.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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I streamed him a ton in fantasy last year my dude.
I can see that discussion in the pro scout room on Airline Dr.
"Hey, coach. We like this Vele guy in Denver. He fits a need for us and really feel he can contribute in our system. Sean has a gut at that position so we think we can get Denver to cough him up for a 4th. We thing he can bring equivalent value to us"
"But his fantasy numbers last year..."
"Oh never mind then. Shame on us for considering anything other than a player's fantasy numbers when evaluating him."
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:43 am to bstaceyau19
"Depends on one's definition of Is. The fog of history for the mostly uneducated blends what people see as facts. We all know the time frames of success and that was the justified concern. Some folks just want to see what they believe to be wrong you see."
Signed
People Who are Wrong
Signed
People Who are Wrong
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:44 am to bstaceyau19
How do you get from here
to this
?
quote:
You guys who poo-pooed it just assumed since the Saints made a trade that it was automatically bad. You knew nothing about the player himself; probably barely knew his name before he was on the roster.
to this
quote:
I can see that discussion in the pro scout room on Airline Dr.
?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
I said you probably didn't know who he was. You said you did; you knew him through fantasy football which suggested that your dislike of him had a lot to do with his production in that medium. I then said what I said about using fantasy as a basis for evaluating a player.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/15/25 at 8:49 am to bstaceyau19
quote:
I said you probably didn't know who he was. You said you did; you knew him through fantasy football
Correct
I proved you wrong
What does my knowledge of Vele have to do with Airline Dr.'s knowledge of Vele?
quote:
which suggested that your dislike of him had a lot to do with his production in that medium.
No it's his age and the cost.
quote:
I then said what I said about using fantasy as a basis for evaluating a player.
No you said things about Saints management.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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Vele still doesn't have 300 yards for the season my dude.
And we aren't making the playoffs.
And he just turned 28
You were the one pushing to evaluate the move at the end of the year irrationally.
Or are you going to re-frame the analytical window again?
you are such a cuck. your bullshite arguing stances are not ever even worth taking seriously.
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