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re: The value of the Davenport draft pick

Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am to
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We used a pick we owned


that is a cost. you have zero justification in your logic to ignore the original cost of any player drafted.

Davenport costs us this year's 1st and 5th and next year's 1st. No way do you ignore this year's first out of the equation.

You don't do that cause take the Saints Kamara trade:
Kamara costs us that year's 7th and next year's 2nd round. In you two idiots' logic, that would assume that we gave away a 3rd round pick automatically in which we did not.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:08 am to
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Davenport costs us this year's 1st and 5th and next year's 1st.


No one ever says draft picks "cost" anything when they aren't traded for. They're "used".

Honestly, people see right through your attempt to make the pick out to be worse than it was by saying Davenport "cost" the Saints a first round pick in 2018 rather than using the common terminology of the Saints "used" a first round pick in 2018.

Getting butthurt because you're being called on your bullshite just makes you seem that much more ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:11 am to
It did not COST us this years pick. You are trying to apply economics to a football draft. You're being too literal old man.

We gave up 1 pick. Period. This is our only negative in the whole equation when it comes to first round picks. Its that simple.
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:14 am to
Exactly. The only thing we lost first round wise is our pick next year. 1 pick. Not 2. But 1.

Arguing with the dude is like arguing with my wife.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:15 am to
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It did not COST us this years pick.


that statement is 100% wrong. how you are defending this as truth is ignorant. We gave Green Bay the pick 27 as well as next year's first. That is by definition a cost. If it did not cost us that pick, we would have had our 1st round pick such as what we did when we drafted Kamara in the 3rd round.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:18 am to
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We gave Green Bay the pick 27 as well as next year's first.


We didn't "give" Green Bay the 27th pick. We traded it to them to acquire 14th pick.

Once again, you're using inaccurate terminology to try and frame this trade to be worse than it is.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:20 am to
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We didn't "give" Green Bay the 27th pick. We traded it to them


holy frick
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:24 am to
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holy frick


I'm sorry for seeing though your bullshite, again. There's a reason you've got 1-7 upvote/downvote ratio man. It's because people don't buy your nonsense.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:25 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:27 am to
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I'm sorry for seeing though your bullshite, again.




you haven't seen through shite. The other moron already said that literally i am correct. Hilarious he still wants to argue.

We gave, we sent, we traded, and it costed us our first round pick 27 and next year's 1st round pick for the ability to move up and end up drafting Marcus Davenport with the 14th pick of the draft. Quite literally there is nothing for you to argue. Your only argument is depending on what "extra" the saints had to give up in addition to the pick 27. I have nothing else to do but continue to argue this with you for the next 48 hours.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:28 am to
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There's a reason you've got 1-7 upvote/downvote ratio man. It's because people don't buy your nonsense.


No, its actually because factually 90% of people are idiots.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:35 am to
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No, its actually because factually 90% of people are idiots.


Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:36 am to
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No, its actually because factually 90% of people are idiots.

Is this topic worth the anger?
Posted by BDJ
Texas
Member since Jul 2016
2135 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:38 am to
Chad is 40+ years old and acts 12. What do you expect. This shite is his life lol.

Kinda sad honestly.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:45 am to
I'm not trying to insult anyone, least of all Chad.

But I just don't get why people get so riled up and aggressive over these topics.
You can make a point without insulting someone, and your point carries more weight if you're calm.



I'm starting to wonder if there's a discussion board out there that actually promotes Football/Saints-related conversations without constant trolling and insulting.
That shite was funny when I was like 22.
It's not anymore.

Am I the only one feels this way?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:58 am to
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Is this topic worth the anger?



its stressful arguing with idiots who are arguing semantics with me then i get told i'm being too technical.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:03 pm to
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its stressful arguing with idiots who are arguing semantics with me then i get told i'm being too technical.


The guy using inaccurate, but technically not incorrect, phrases to frame a pick as worse than it was is saying other people are using semantics.

Gold.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176215 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:06 pm to
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The guy using inaccurate, but technically not incorrect, phrases to frame a pick as worse than it was is saying other people are using semantics.



you are giving when you are trading. we can pick up that fight again. let's go. when you are giving up picks, that in turn is what it is costing you.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:09 pm to
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you are giving when you are trading. we can pick up that fight again. let's go. when you are giving up picks, that in turn is what it is costing you.


You can keep spouting off this spin and fighting tooth and nail with all of the people that disagree with you. You seem to enjoy it.

Just understand that most of us realize you are only doing it because you don't like the pick much and saying "It cost the Saint's two 1st round picks" sounds worse than expressing it properly by saying "It cost the Saints a 1st and they USED a 1st".

Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176215 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:10 pm to
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"It cost the Saint's two 1st round picks" sounds worse than expressing it properly by saying "It cost the Saints a 1st and they USED a 1st".



i need you to further elaborate the difference between costing the saints 2 first round picks and the Saints using 2 first round picks to acquire Marcus Davenport.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51033 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:14 pm to
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i need you to further elaborate the difference between costing the saints 2 first round picks and the Saints using 2 first round picks to acquire Marcus Davenport.


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sounds worse


I already did.
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