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The Tom Benson Era
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:27 am
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:27 am
Mr. Benson bought the team in 1985. We are in Mr. Benson's 33rd year as owner. He inherited Bum Phillips as coach, Saints went on to a 5-11 season, Bum was fired mid year and Wade Phillips finished year as interim coach.
Since 1985, Mr. Benson has hired only 4 head coaches. Jim Mora, Mike Ditka, Jim Haslett, and Sean Payton. This is the 32nd year of only having hired 4 coaches during this time span. I don't think Mr. Benson and the Saints get enough credit like other franchises who have had similar stability over the past 3 decades.
Previous to Mr. Benson (1967-1984), Saints have only had 2 non losing 8-8 seasons. First came in 1979, last 1983. We had an overall record of 78-176 which amounted to a .307 winning percentage, zero playoff appearances, zero division titles.
Since Mr. Benson has owned Saints, The Saints have had a 267-253 record. This amounts to a .518 winning percentage in regular season play. We've had 10 playoff appearances in 32 years. Looking for our 11th in 33 years. 5 first place divisional finishes. 7-9 in post season play with a Super bowl trophy obviously.
If you remove the 4 seasons we've fired a coach (Phillips '84, Mora '96, Ditka '99, Haslet '05 (katrina), we've only had 2 seasons during this 29 year stretch where we've won less than 7 games. These both were Mike Ditka's first two seasons. Yes the Ditka hire turned out to be pretty disastrous but you can't say Benson didn't try with that hire and hire a proven big named coach at the time.
Mr. Benson has done a pretty stand up job on turning around the worst franchise in the NFL up until the mid 80's.
Since 1985, Mr. Benson has hired only 4 head coaches. Jim Mora, Mike Ditka, Jim Haslett, and Sean Payton. This is the 32nd year of only having hired 4 coaches during this time span. I don't think Mr. Benson and the Saints get enough credit like other franchises who have had similar stability over the past 3 decades.
Previous to Mr. Benson (1967-1984), Saints have only had 2 non losing 8-8 seasons. First came in 1979, last 1983. We had an overall record of 78-176 which amounted to a .307 winning percentage, zero playoff appearances, zero division titles.
Since Mr. Benson has owned Saints, The Saints have had a 267-253 record. This amounts to a .518 winning percentage in regular season play. We've had 10 playoff appearances in 32 years. Looking for our 11th in 33 years. 5 first place divisional finishes. 7-9 in post season play with a Super bowl trophy obviously.
If you remove the 4 seasons we've fired a coach (Phillips '84, Mora '96, Ditka '99, Haslet '05 (katrina), we've only had 2 seasons during this 29 year stretch where we've won less than 7 games. These both were Mike Ditka's first two seasons. Yes the Ditka hire turned out to be pretty disastrous but you can't say Benson didn't try with that hire and hire a proven big named coach at the time.
Mr. Benson has done a pretty stand up job on turning around the worst franchise in the NFL up until the mid 80's.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:36 am
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:34 am to Chad504boy
You mean won less than 7 games. We’ve lost less than 7 many times.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:42 am to Chad504boy
No real complaints here.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:04 am to Chad504boy
I would like to know the overall W/L record pre Payton
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:40 am to Chad504boy
Benson used a weak loophole & claimed breach of contract with the state so he could move them to San Antonio when New Orleans was hurting.
Even Tagliabue thought it was a bush league move.
I forgave him but I can never forget the facts.
Even Tagliabue thought it was a bush league move.
I forgave him but I can never forget the facts.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:43 am to LSUFreek
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Benson used a weak loophole & claimed breach of contract with the state so he could move them to San Antonio when New Orleans was hurting.
Even Tagliabue thought it was a bush league move.
I forgave him but I can never forget the facts.
maybe but it also led to long term stability as well.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:07 pm to Chad504boy
Definitely.
And it makes me like Tagliabue (even more than I already do in comparison to the Goodell "Error") in that Tag stood up for the city when it was unstable which brought stability to both the city & the franchise.
But we've only had two owners to grade, and John Mecom's era was arguably the worst NFL ownership era of all time, so Benson's era is infinitely better, if only by default. Hell, Mecom's Era makes current Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam look like the Pats Robert Craft Era.
And it makes me like Tagliabue (even more than I already do in comparison to the Goodell "Error") in that Tag stood up for the city when it was unstable which brought stability to both the city & the franchise.
But we've only had two owners to grade, and John Mecom's era was arguably the worst NFL ownership era of all time, so Benson's era is infinitely better, if only by default. Hell, Mecom's Era makes current Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam look like the Pats Robert Craft Era.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 12:15 pm to Chad504boy
Great post. I remember those disastrous years prior to 86 and always wishing they could do better. Never wore the bag but knew many that did.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:17 pm to Chad504boy
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f you remove the 4 seasons we've fired a coach (Phillips '84, Mora '96, Ditka '99, Haslet '05 (katrina), we've only had 2 seasons during this 29 year stretch where we've won less than 7 games.
I'm a lifelong Saints fan, 34 years old, and this blows my mind. I did not realize this.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:15 pm to Chad504boy
Benson is a joke of an owner and is completely clueless about football.
Any periods of success during his ownership period have been coincidental.
Any periods of success during his ownership period have been coincidental.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:18 pm to Chad504boy
From the 1993 season through the 2005 season, a total of 13 seasons, the Saints made the playoffs ONCE. I doubt any other NFL franchise did worse.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:24 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
The buffalo bills haven't been to the playoffs in 17 years...
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:30 pm to Bonkers119
Browns 14
Been a while for Bucs
Been a while for Bucs
Posted on 11/16/17 at 9:49 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:That's not always a bad thing. Would you rather the Saints be owned by an owner that frequently interferes with the day to day operations? That's how a franchise can quickly become a joke.
completely clueless about football.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:00 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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From the 1993 season through the 2005 season, a total of 13 seasons, the Saints made the playoffs ONCE. I doubt any other NFL franchise did worse.
1. Buffalo Bills 17 seasons without making the playoffs.
2. Cleveland Browns 14 seasons without making the playoffs.
3. Cincinnati Bengals 14 seasons without making the playoffs.
4. STL/LA Rams 12 seasons without making the playoffs.
The longest droughts the Saints have had under Benson were 7 seasons, 5 seasons, and 3 seasons (current drought). Things could have been a hell of a lot worse.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 2:58 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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SportsGuyNOLA
Apparently you chose the wrong name, you don't know shite.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 3:06 pm to TigerBait2008
its a staggering statistic for sure.
and then when you add the 3 yrs before and 1 yr after, then all of a sudden its 5 years we made playoffs out of 17.
and then when you add the 3 yrs before and 1 yr after, then all of a sudden its 5 years we made playoffs out of 17.
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