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re: The tendered costs of RFA...
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:16 pm to VA LSU fan
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:16 pm to VA LSU fan
agree, teams will clamor for brown, let them, and take your compensation.
get rid of grant too.
restructure bush's contract.
draft well.
do all 4 things and i will be a very happy camper.
get rid of grant too.
restructure bush's contract.
draft well.
do all 4 things and i will be a very happy camper.
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:31 pm to Midget Death Squad
We need to definitely put at least a 1 on Brown. We're going to pay him at least that salary if we keep him and if someone ponies up some serious cash, we want to be compensated as much as we can. Just because you put the 1 on him doesn't mean we can't trade him for a 2nd and a 5th, which is what I think he's worth. Or a 2nd and a conditional pick based on playing time, etc...
Harper is the one I would drop to a 2 and really dangle that carrot. Moore, probably a 3. I'd love to get a 2nd for Harper and then play Jenkins where he should have been playing from day one.
Harper is the one I would drop to a 2 and really dangle that carrot. Moore, probably a 3. I'd love to get a 2nd for Harper and then play Jenkins where he should have been playing from day one.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 10:52 pm to KindOfABigDeal
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Moore, probably a 3.
There is no 3rd round tender (I'd forgotten that as well, started thinking there was since there's a 1st + 3rd tender).
You can't use the round drafted compensation since he was undrafted.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:47 pm to KindOfABigDeal
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I'd love to get a 2nd for Harper and then play Jenkins where he should have been playing from day one.
did you not see Jenkins in the SB? he was money, and he was doing it as a CB. I personally don't care if he plays S or CB, but I do trust the coaches to make that decision. I'm just getting annoyed with all the fanboy experts who seem to believe they know it all and insist that Jenkins must play S.
To reiterate, let the coaches decide; a SB ring tells me they know best.
Now, back to the subject of the thread. I say keep Harper. He really fits well into Williams' system. The only ones I'd be willing to trade would be Brown, Grant, Moore and Bush (not FA, but part of the trade talk). Other than that, I think all other players ought to be untouchable. We need to keep this team intact as much as possible.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 1:25 am to Midget Death Squad
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. I say keep Harper. He really fits well into Williams'
elaborate please
Posted on 2/12/10 at 8:26 am to tigerguy121
Wish we could keep almost all our entire roster.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:28 am to tigerguy121
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elaborate please
Harper went from being a weakness because he was being asked to do too much of things he's not good at like coverage, to being a pro bowler.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 2:25 pm to TigerinATL
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Harper went from being a weakness because he was being asked to do too much of things he's not good at like coverage, to being a pro bowler.
So he is a good fit for Williams system cause he went to the pro bowl as a replacement?
Thanks but I was looking for more specific info than that
Posted on 2/12/10 at 3:59 pm to tigerguy121
He only replaced one guy, that's like being rated the 3rd best SS in the conference. I doubt people ranked him as highly last season.
I don't think you're going to find it because it's not like he had a huge jump stat wise. All I can tell you is at the end of last season people were wondering if Harper needed to be replaced in addition to Bullocks and Kaesviharn. This season he seemed to make mostly positive plays and was very good both in run support and getting pressure on the QB.
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Thanks but I was looking for more specific info than that
I don't think you're going to find it because it's not like he had a huge jump stat wise. All I can tell you is at the end of last season people were wondering if Harper needed to be replaced in addition to Bullocks and Kaesviharn. This season he seemed to make mostly positive plays and was very good both in run support and getting pressure on the QB.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 6:43 pm to TigerinATL
Just curious is there a list of UFA and RFA for the entire league? Sorry I didn't read through every post.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 10:14 pm to TigerinATL
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I don't think you're going to find it because it's not like he had a huge jump stat wise
I'm not asking for stats, I'm asking what it is about Roman Harper's skill set that makes him a good fit For Williams' system. Does Williams' system like a SS who like you said is not good at coverage?
Posted on 2/13/10 at 9:51 am to tigerguy121
This article from October is all about him fitting in the new system LINK
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"(This system) allows me to do what I do best. I can fly around. I don't have to do a lot of thinking, a lot of doing too much. We have roles, and it puts a lot of freedom on us. We have different calls that Gregg allows us to make within each play call, and it allows us to cut it loose, and we're doing that right now.
"We're just running around. I think that's what it is. He doesn't try to put so much emphasis on X's and O's. As long as you're running hard -- playing fast and playing hard -- that's what he wants to see more than anything.
...The approach has been a boon for Harper.
Not that he was awful in previous seasons. Last year, team statistics credited him with a career-high 106 tackles, nine passes defensed and a forced fumble. The season before that, he had a career-high four sacks and the only three interceptions of his four seasons.
But Harper never has been more of a playmaker with the Saints than he is now.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 10:20 am to TigerinATL
So if we wanted to replace Harper all we are looking for is a safety that plays fast and plays hard.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 10:33 am to tigerguy121
Yes, and we may already have that in Chip Vaughn. They basically said "Sorry we won't need you this year" and IRed him when he wasn't that seriously injured, so some people take that as a bad sign, but it could be he was just talent duplication we couldn't afford to carry on the roster.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 10:36 am to TigerinATL
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but it could be he was just talent duplication we couldn't afford to carry on the roster.
seems strange then that the team would draft him
Posted on 2/13/10 at 10:45 am to tigerguy121
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seems strange then that the team would draft him
You have to remember how last season ended. I think Porter was the only guy most people thought for sure would be a solid starter. No one knew what to think of Greer and many people thought Sharper didn't have much left in the tank and Jenkins would be starting at FS by mid season. And while people hoped Harper would rebound in a new system, he blew enough plays the year before that we weren't sure if he was a long term fit at SS either. Greer and Sharper exceeding expectations made us over draft in a sense and that turned one of last year's biggest weaknesses into one of this year's biggest strengths.
Posted on 2/13/10 at 11:12 am to TigerinATL
Don't think Greer had anything to do with the drafting of Vaughn. Vaughn like you said is basically just like Harper, a 4th LB almost.
He wasn't some corner that we if he couldn't transistion to the NFL we would move him to safety.
I subscribe to the theory that they weren't excited bout what they saw. Maybe give him a year of being in the system and he will improve, but I'm not pinning any hopes on him
He wasn't some corner that we if he couldn't transistion to the NFL we would move him to safety.
I subscribe to the theory that they weren't excited bout what they saw. Maybe give him a year of being in the system and he will improve, but I'm not pinning any hopes on him
Posted on 2/13/10 at 11:35 am to THRILLHO
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Stinky
Who is this?
Posted on 2/13/10 at 11:42 am to F machine
RT John Stinchcomb
Posted on 2/13/10 at 1:52 pm to KindOfABigDeal
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We need to definitely put at least a 1 on Brown. We're going to pay him at least that salary if we keep him and if someone ponies up some serious cash, we want to be compensated as much as we can
I agree...but I'd put a 1 and 3 on him for that reason.
I'd put a 2 on Thomas. Nobody is going to give up a 2nd for Pierre.
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