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The Saints future at QB is bleak.

Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:57 am
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5064 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:57 am
First it was Winston the Bucs' future QB. Then it became Siemien the Broncos future QB. Which bust at QB are they signing now or this off season?

I'm amazed at how many Saints fans here believe either of these two failures already at QB are the Saints' saving grace post Brees. You fans just need to go ahead and put the paperbags over your heads. You're a lost cause.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:04 am
Posted by scormi5
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
1686 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:01 am to
I don’t know anyone who’s being serious who thinks Sieman has any potential as our future starting QB. Winston at least had the potential to be, but even then I don’t believe anyone was 100% sold on the idea, at least not yet.
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
Member since Apr 2013
1900 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:05 am to
What are you even talking about? Nobody ever said Trevor was the answer for the future. Also Jamies was actually decent before the injury especially with the lack of WR depth.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:06 am to
Sell the farm for Rodgers or Wilson
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32969 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:07 am to
I’ll take your viewpoint with a giant grain of salt as you thought Rosen was who we should get in the off-season.

Winston was playing well before the injury and had plenty of development potential as he got more experience in the offense. He will be the QB next year and people should learn to deal with it.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16027 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 am to
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Sell the farm for Rodgers or Wilson


and what good would selling the farm for either of them do if our received have cinder block hands?
Posted by WhiskeyPlease
Member since Sep 2018
1959 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 am to
Evidently Payton dint planned a long term solution after Brees. Don't think he will be here after 2022 Season. Adios Sean
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:13 am to
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Evidently Payton dint planned a long term solution after Brees. Don't think he will be here after 2022 Season. Adios Sean



Yikes....what a terrible take
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5064 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:25 am to
I thought they needed a young QB like a Rosen to try and develop. I forgot that Payton is NOT a developer of QB's. He signed Brees who already was developed by the Chargers. Now the Saints need to sign Wilson or Rogers for Payton to continue his success. But he prefers reclaimation project rejects like Winston and Siemien.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7037 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:32 am to
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receivers have cinder block hands


The failure to address this position is finally catching up to us
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6572 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:35 am to
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But he prefers reclaimation project rejects like Winston and Siemien


Because that's what he can afford...

We built this team thru the draft and paid as many of those guys as we could while also letting several good players walk

If we had drafted say, Josh Allen, we'd be paying him $40 million a year and Latt, Ram, etc would all be gone
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:41 am to
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Then it became Siemien the Broncos future QB
No it wasn’t. If you’re going to pile on after a loss at least try not being so disingenuous.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:55 am to
We have one of the best WRs in football in MT. All we need is a moderately priced veteran #2. That's essentially been or WR corps for years while we were lighting up the NFL in offensive production.

We have a second chance at a Superbowl window... a great defense, stout line, and elite RB's. If we can sign a QB and a decent #2 receiver... maybe hit on a TE in the draft, we can absolutely make a run.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17484 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:57 am to
We will never have another Brees, so you need to drop the bar. I trust that Payton can find a guy that will consistently give us 7-11 wins inside of the system.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
16027 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:00 am to
i agree with what you are saying - but that is a LOT of If's - that's IF MT plays for us again, and IF we hit on TE.

the game yesterday was 100% on our receiving core.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30384 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:03 am to
quote:

First it was Winston the Bucs' future QB. Then it became Siemien the Broncos future QB. Which bust at QB are they signing now or this off season?

I'm amazed at how many Saints fans here believe either of these two failures already at QB are the Saints' saving grace post Brees


I recall when we signed the Chargers future QB after major surgery on his throwing arm. WTF were we thinking.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:06 am to
its not far fetched at all. The QB signing is going to be the tough part. Once you have that, MT will be happy and you can easily draw in some FAs with tread on the tires, even a decent TE. The draft could be gravy.

Maybe im kidding myself, but I see a path.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:09 am to
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The failure to address this position is finally catching up to us


We've been addressing the position. Over the last 5 years whether through FA or draft, even with TE. I mean, we could have gone all out on WR and have a shitty Oline if that's what ya'll want I agree they suck right now but our #1 is on IR and we lost our #2 to FA. At some point when Brees left we were gonna have to pay for it and right now there is no money.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28384 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:20 am to
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I thought they needed a young QB like a Rosen to try and develop. I forgot that Payton is NOT a developer of QB's. He signed Brees who already was developed by the Chargers. Now the Saints need to sign Wilson or Rogers for Payton to continue his success. But he prefers reclaimation project rejects like Winston and Siemien.


The same Rosen who wasn't that good at UCLA and has been HORRIBLE in the NFL? A guy that was so bad, the team that picked him in the first round selected ANOTHER QB in the first round of the next draft because it took less than a year to figure out Rosen wasn't worth shite.

And where is the grand plan the Saints were supposed to have? For the last 10 years or so the Saints have routinely picked outside of the range where the top rated QBs are taken. The one recent year they were in range (2017) the Saints were set to take a guy named Pat Mahomes. It took KC making a massive and unexpected move from 27 to 10 to get him. And it is not like the Saints have whiffed on the guy the did take at 11 that year.

The Saints had a HOF QB and were trying to win a Super Bowl. When you have a guy like that you go all in because there is no guarantee you'll ever get another one. As far as replacing Brees the Saints' options were (1) try to get a good back end 1st round or later QB. (2) Land a good vet in free agency.

As for the first, other than Lamar Jackson (who many passed on) there hasn't great QBs available once you get out of the first half of the first round. As for the second, teams don't generally let great veteran QBs hit the FA market. That said, the Saints were able to find a former #1 pick and multi-year starter in FA (Winston) on a VERY cheap deal (two very cheap deals, in fact). The guy was lost for the season after just over 6 games. Was Winston looking like a HOFer? Of course not. But I'm not quite sure what "succession" plan you think the Saints should have implemented...but didn't
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5064 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:35 am to
Was Siemien not the heir apparent to Peyton Manning when he retired? Yes or no?
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