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re: The NFL owns Who Dat??

Posted on 1/28/10 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by Me Bite
A.K.A. - Bite Me
Member since Oct 2007
7280 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 6:45 pm to
frick DAT!

Chicken better change the name of the Geaux Saints emoticon.

Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1496 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 6:45 pm to
The Who Dat Nation just needs to flood the market with Who Dat stuff!!! There has to be some lawyers in the Who Dat Nation that can advise and/or handle this crap for the store owners
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10221 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 7:46 pm to
Well if that's the case then the Catholic Church should get a portion of the NFL profit from people selling Fleur- de-lis and "Saints" items. After all it is their domain.

Posted by jralspanky
Fargo - Home of NDSU Bison
Member since Apr 2009
1496 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
Member since Mar 2009
5659 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 9:04 pm to
These are the same phaggots who made the "we be Saints" shirts! So weak.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10862 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 9:13 pm to
Now they are gonna come out with with
"Screw Dat" NFL shirts.
Posted by LSUtigerfan1025
Baton Rouge and Crowley, LA
Member since Aug 2004
609 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 9:31 pm to
More reasons to hate the NFL.

I love the Saints, and I love football, but the NFL is becoming more and more a joke. Saints shirts like this have been around forever with the league doing nothing about it, now that the saints are winning the league begins to care about stuff like this.

Also copywriting catch phrases is such a load. I'm done.

I'd honestly prefer to watch HS football and then have college on Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by tiger713
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
1121 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Lovethutigahs
New Orleans, La
Member since Apr 2004
945 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 10:05 pm to
Is bs. I especially got a kick out of the NFL owning the Saints colors. So does the NFL own the Texans red, white and blue. Perhaps the US should come down hard on Houston for their colors. Or Perhaps the state of Texas should put out their hand for the Cowboys using the state's star.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/28/10 at 10:35 pm to
Wikipedia - Origins of "Who Dat"

Reliable sources say the NFL is sending a Cease-and-Desist to the Vatican.
This post was edited on 1/28/10 at 10:37 pm
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 7:40 am to
So, does the NFL also own "America's Team" ? Or "Who Dey"? Or "Lambeau Leap"? Or any of the hundreds of other terms used to refer to teams or cheers associated with NFL teams?

Great idea ! In one of the worst economic times the country has seen, let's take another slice of the small business pie !
This post was edited on 1/29/10 at 7:44 am
Posted by lapistola
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 7:55 am to
quote:

So, does the NFL also own "America's Team" ? Or "Who Dey"? Or "Lambeau Leap"? Or any of the hundreds of other terms used to refer to teams or cheers associated with NFL teams?


Yeah pretty much. At least when you're attempting to make a profit off of it. If its something that reminds the consumer of an NFL team, they own the rights to it. If the Who Dat shirts were mardi gras colors, it would probably be ok.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:06 am to
Why can't people understand the NFL is a business? They are trying to make money. If they allowed everyone to use their trademarks for profit they would lose vast amounts of income.

As for fleur-de-les, colors, and phrases, it is when used together in some fashion. If you look at the shirt in the picture it is black and gold, has a fleur-de-les, and says who dat...clearly a Saints shirt and copyright infringement. And the saints did not copy write all fleur-de-les just the one they use in the logo. Otherwise I’m pretty sure the French have the copy rights on it since they have been using it for some 500 years.

It business most corporations and business trademark their logos and colors. I mean even the Hell’s Angels copy righted the deaths head logo. Why should someone profit from an organizations success without giving that organization their credit or share of the earnings.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:08 am to
I'm not a lawyer, but I still understand the principles behind copyright law, unlike most people who are whining about this...
Posted by Cussian
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Mar 2008
1731 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:08 am to
I think I'm going to buy the rights to the phrase "What time is it?" I'll collect royalties on everybody.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:08 am to
Funny that the NFL didn't give a rats arse about "Who Dat" until now.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:12 am to
quote:

getting in trouble


Depend on how you look at it. The NFL's gestapo could be bluffing. They tell the store owners to "cease and desist." The store owners could meekly comply, or, tell the NFL to stick it ... sue me. Yes, the NFL could call the bluff and actually file suit... a stupid PR move, but ... they could do it. The store owners need to seek legal advice and obtain a risk assessment - if they continue to sell the shirts, how likely (or not) are they to lose a lawsuit?
This post was edited on 1/29/10 at 8:15 am
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Funny that the NFL didn't give a rats arse about "Who Dat" until now.


Funny that people weren't profiting from it until now, as well.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:19 am to
quote:

if they continue to sell the shirts, how likely (or not) are they to lose a lawsuit?


The store got permission to sell the remainder of their stock of that particular shirt. So, really she didn't lose, she just can't continue to make a profit without the NFL's permission. Which, she could get if she asked and paid the NFL their royalties. She tried to bet the system by adding the # sign, it didn't work. She did get parody with who D@ though.

I hate when people bitch about the big guy pushing around the little guy! If they let every little guy have their way they would go broke.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 1/29/10 at 8:28 am to
quote:

More reasons to hate the NFL.


Would these tshirt vendors even be selling a Who Dat shirt if the NFL and Saints hadn't created the demand for them? Why shouldn't they get their cut for creating the market?

If you want to be mad at the NFL for something, at least have a good reason. It looks like the NFL lawyers may just be in shake down mode and not have an actual claim to Who Dat. A money board poster said some guy from New York holds the trademark.
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