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re: Surprise surprise NFL not punishing Panthers for SCam's "eye injury"

Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:39 pm to
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A) He actually flips the Defender over him with his knees. That's important because concussed people are generally out for a second, they lose all functionality in their limbs. (25 second mark)



No they do not. Not all concussions are the same, mild ones can have no loss of consciousness or lose functionality.

If you don't remember, players used to play concussed all the time without realizing it. I'm sure even linemen still go through it today's game.

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B) Notice as he gets up he's wincing his eye. Clearly something happened with his right eye. (12 second mark, 34 second mark, etc. Basically the whole damn clip he's wincing his eye.)



Dizziness, blurry vision, headache, confusion are all symptoms. There's obviously more, but all 4 of those would cause average joe to wince. Hell, I wince when I get a pulsating headache or you see it when people get migraines.

Oh look, here's Russell Wilson wincing too
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C) He then puts his arms out to get up and still is wincing. Concussed people aren't instantly getting up without wobbling.



once again, difference in severity.
kamara literally got up and ran to the sideline
Wilson got up and ran to the sideline while wincing his left eye.

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D) He then starts walking over without wobbling to his sideline (51 second mark). My theory here is that the coaches in his helmet finally told him to fall to the ground to get that injury timeout. I can't prove this though.



nobody can, but he was evaluated for a concussion on the sideline along with the eye BS. Which means even him "falling" would say he's vertically unstable which should have been brought to the back.

Falling down and calling it an eye injury is skating the rules as much as Wilson/Seattle's bs.

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E) While walking off, he points with his right hand to his right eye in his helmet (53 second mark).



Notice how when he first got hit and got up, he's wincing his left eye though.


I don't think you realize in all of this is purely the fact that they skirted the lines on some and broke a few rules and got no punishment while Wilson/Seattle got fined heavily for theirs.

here's thomas jones talking about concussions and how he felt during them:
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- out of body experience
- seeing stars immediately
- seeing black spots
- seeing two of you, I have to put you back together *squints his eyes* while talking about that
- I'm hearing you, but I'm not listening and I'm running the plays like..."and some of the best games ive had"
- "I've seen guys who are hit and get knocked out..."

Pretty much a description of mild to severe.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted by notbreauxmo
Neauxwhere
Member since Jan 2018
16 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:00 pm to


Cam- It's cool, I can see out my mind's eye.

Medical Staff- What? You hurt your eye?

Cam- Umm, yeh, that's it.

M.S.- Oh good cause it looked like you got knocked the !@#$ out.



Appreciate your opinion, but photo evidence is nice too.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7837 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Really not a fan of stupid nicknames like scam newton. It's worse than when people call us stupid shite like the "stains" or "aints".


Go become a failcons foulcunts fan then
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
76525 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:07 pm to
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I think we all can agree that their needs to be a standard and simple rule that EVERY player from EVERY team must follow, correct? The problem is it just gets difficult. If it's your backup TE, sure, throw his arse in the tent. If it's your starting QB - ughhhh - I want my guy out there giving it his all.


Well sadly this is the NFL right now and the biggest gripe out there is the unequal application of the rules.
Posted by ReneeBVP
Member since Dec 2016
240 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:14 pm to
You are an angry baby boomer
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
2222 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:16 pm to
Yep and You are pathetic self-indulged millennial.
Posted by ReneeBVP
Member since Dec 2016
240 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:12 pm to
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unequal application of the rules.



This is how you massage games.

Also, correctly calling one team on tic tac calls while letting another team get away with murder.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
2211 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:10 pm to
The problem with the “eye theory” is when anything even minuscule touches your eye, your hand immediately goes to your eye within a few seconds of it happening. No matter if it a fighter taking an eye poke or a piece of something blowing in it from the wind. Every time I’ve had it happen or seen it happen, the reaction is pretty much the same. I don’t think he ever rubbed his eye. He reacted just like someone who was having blurred vision and light sensitivity without pain in the eye.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:18 pm to
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But Kamara had to be rushed to the locker room and have his helmet taken from him.


Kamara was definitely wobbled on that play. I’m not going to fault them for taking him back, we need that guy for the long haul. The Cam thing is bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23553 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:50 pm to
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Concussed or not, I think we all can agree that their needs to be a standard and simple rule that EVERY player from EVERY team must follow, correct?

The problem is it just gets difficult. If it's your backup TE, sure, throw his arse in the tent. If it's your starting QB - ughhhh - I want my guy out there giving it his all.

Yep, that's it in a nutshell.

And that's why the NFL has put an impartial neurologist out there, because nobody wants to pull their starting quarterback when the game is on the line.
This is the exact circumstance the league enacted this rule, and they still ignored it.

Watch and remember- years from now, Cam likely WILL have some form of permanent injury, and he will sue the league for this event. He will state that he lied at the time because he was young and felt invulnerable, and the team took advantage of that and caused him greater longterm injury. He and his attorneys will claim that the NFL neglected their duty to protect him from himself, in favor of a sort term TV rating for a playoff game.
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