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re: So wait, we traded our 2nd this year and 1st next year?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Does nobody here remember Winston Justice?
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Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:26 pm to swamie
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reggie bush and his sub 4.0 ypc was not a main cog in our rushing attack, broseph
no matter how you want to slice it, he wasn't
Right..........keep telling yourself that.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
And no drafted rb has ever helped a team? So if ap were available you wouldn't have taken him this year? If you really think about it, most every team in the play offs have high profile rb or high profile qb. Very few have both, now it looks like we do.
Every year you bitch about our picks. Every year. And weren't you high on meachem?
Every year you bitch about our picks. Every year. And weren't you high on meachem?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:28 pm to swamie
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Does nobody here remember Winston Justice?
starting OT for a playoff team winston justice?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:29 pm to LSUsaintsfanla
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And no drafted rb has ever helped a team?
i said we should have drafted a RB
just, later
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So if ap were available you wouldn't have taken him this year?
he's one of the 3 franchise backs in the NFL, so yes, i would have taken him in the late 1st
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now it looks like we do.
whoa
mark ingram is not a "high profile" RB until he proves it on the field. if thomas isn't cut and stays healthy i doubt ingram even starts this year
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:29 pm to LSUsaintsfanla
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And weren't you high on meachem?
naw, i wanted grubbs
but i defend the hell out of meach
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
He's improved, but don't act like starting OT for a playoff team makes you any more right.
Stinchcomb made a pro bowl for fricks sake.
Stinchcomb made a pro bowl for fricks sake.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:33 pm to swamie
I wouldn't have argued had we drafted an OT but obviously Saints FO thought the issue was with the backs, not the line and that's what you saw tonight.
I'm sobering up so I got a bit more reason to me now.
I'm sobering up so I got a bit more reason to me now.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:34 pm to swamie
and at the time our OL sucked and we picked harper, who is utterly replaceable and at a very common position (SS)
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the sample is not set, so any response is impossible
But, this opportunity passed you by. Then, you run the risk of competing with other teams for a "hot" free agents and losing out (like with LT) or those old vet breaks down..or the old vet just busts.
None of the alternative scenarios are without risk regardless of what you think. And if you think there is an elite guy you can get who is head and shoulders over the the players who'd be available later in this draft you need to take him.
This was a reasonable move. I'd respect your opinion if you said you didn't think Ingram himself was worth the pick. But, taking the #1 RB in the draft at #28 is hardly a reach.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:41 pm to moneyg
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None of the alternative scenarios are without risk regardless of what you think
i never said that
but a proven vet is a much lesser risk than an unproven rookie. that's a fact
and having a vet + our picks makes the saints better off than no vet - our picks, correct?
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And if you think there is an elite guy
i think this is just where i disagree. i don't think ingram is elite
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But, taking the #1 RB in the draft at #28 is hardly a reach.
unless there are no good RBs in that year
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So if ap were available you wouldn't have taken him this year?
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he's one of the 3 franchise backs in the NFL, so yes, i would have taken him in the late 1st
Wow.......
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and we picked harper, who is utterly replaceable and at a very common position
oh you mean starting SS for a Super Bowl team and 2x pro bowler?
And even though OT wasn't really addressed in that draft unless you count Strief, which I'm sure neither of us are, it's weird how out Oline improved since that draft, huh?
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:48 pm to swamie
Yeah, SS is one of the least important positions, but Harper is very good.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:49 pm to swamie
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oh you mean starting SS for a Super Bowl team and 2x pro bowler?
SS is a common position and harper isn't THAT great
and our best secondary player that year was sharper, who was a cheap FA pickup (just to give an example of relative value)
don't act like it's hard to find good SS who play the run and suck in pass coverage
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And even though OT wasn't really addressed in that draft unless you count Strief, which I'm sure neither of us are, it's weird how out Oline improved since that draft, huh?
this staff, thankfully, has invested in the OL and CB. 2 areas the previous staff had issues with drafting
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:50 pm to THRILLHO
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but Harper is very good.
i'm not saying he's bad. just that he's replaceable for a reasonable amount
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't get it, at least you guys didn't trade back and make a horrible mistake like missing out on two good 5 techniques.
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:57 pm to Jcorye1
one year the draft will be deep and the pats will use all of their picks
Posted on 4/28/11 at 11:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
It would be nice to actually fill a need once in the draft. I'm not freaking out or anything, we're going to pick up either Lashore or Ryan Williams next round and I bet Greg Little finds his way into a New England uniform, I just wish we had picked a more NFL ready OT.
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