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re: Shedeur in play in recent mocks FWIW

Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:50 pm to
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Juwan caught on video telling Sheduer “get your arm ready” then resigning with us.



oh man its all there then....
Posted by High Life
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 10:56 pm to
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He would do just fine at the combine.

It’s not a big deal. He’s choosing a pro day. He’ll have an advantage that way to try and prove to everyone he can be a top 10 pick.



I don't think he would turn many heads at the combine. Probably a smart decision for him to skip it. Like I said I think the guy is a really good college qb. He's accurate and polished but I don't see him as a top 10 pick. He may end up being the greatest of all time but theres nothing that sticks out to me. He takes way too many sacks and I think he'll get smashed at the next level. Similar to bryce young, tua, kyler murray. These little guys get smashed
Posted by TigersJump
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:03 pm to
Helllllllll nahhhhhh
Posted by Mouth
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:13 pm to
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Similar to bryce young, tua, kyler murray. These little guys get smashed


??

Shedeur is 6’2 215

If he adds 10 pounds he is taller and heavier than Hurts.
Posted by High Life
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 11:31 pm to
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Shedeur is 6’2 215


So is my cousin. Stature isn’t the same thing as height. Frame isn’t the same as weight. These are the concerns scouts have with Sanders. Go look at PFF.

Tua is 6’1 225 and he gets thrown around like a rag doll. Pretty damn good quarterback when his brain isn’t scrambled eggs


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If he adds 10 pounds he is taller and heavier than Hurts.


Hurts can squat 600lbs my guy
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 11:32 pm
Posted by S
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:16 am to
I’d only be ok if he’s Moore’s guy and he’s pushing for it. Otherwise, keep developing Rattler, look at a QB later on and get a player you can start playing and immediately developing.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:32 am to
Mates in my first mock draft I took Shady Sanders
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:19 am to
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Shedeur is 6’2 215


Def not similar to Brcyce Young or Kyler.

He is closer to a cj stroud, 6’2 with body mass and a really nice arm - how strong it is will be proven at his proday.

Shedeur’s film is full of touch throws and pro style reads.


He also keeps a play alive kinda like Burrow but more like Nuss at this point. But the point is all three are mobile to throw it, etc.

This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 7:20 am
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:20 am to
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I’d only be ok if he’s Moore’s guy and he’s pushing for it



Same. Which would likely be the reason we take any qb if we do.

Let Km go get his guy.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:21 am to
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Mates in my first mock draft I took Shady Sanders


Unless Sanders pro day throws are incredible, its possible he drops to 9.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:55 am to
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The knock is the overconfidence, but I like a confident QB

You want a confident QB, but not over confident. Over confidence often leads to being hard to coach.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:00 am to
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oh man its all there then....


Def could just be player talk etc.

But there are some signs that we might like Shedeur.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:04 am to
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You want a confident QB, but not over confident. Over confidence often leads to being hard to coach.


Agreed.

If there is something being overlooked about Sheduer is that he’s obviously bred into being a football player, loves it, has the desire to carry on his family name’s success, and money wont make this kid his level of success will.

The opposite of a Manziel who, once he had fame and money didnt need or want football in his life.

Or a Ryan Leaf who cracked immediately.

NIL/fame before the pros these days helps teams figure out who is dedicated once the chase for $ is out the equation.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:37 am to
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I’ll take Sanders - at 9th - all day with CKM calling plays.

The knock on him is what? The Deion show comes as baggage?

One thing I know about Deion is he has taught his boys to be classy and respectful to go along with the flashiness.
What are his strengths that excite you as a QB in the current NFL? He does not add anything in RPOs. He is not extremely mobile. He has a fine arm. His pocket presence is not good and he drifts back a lot on throws. He has a ways to go. Will he get there? Maybe?
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:45 am to
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What are his strengths that excite you as a QB in the current NFL? He does not add anything in RPOs. He is not extremely mobile. He has a fine arm.


Correct that he’s not a runner, he is a mobile passer though. Evades pass rush to throw type player.


Incorrect re: Colorado’s offense.

LINK


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The Scheme: The Run Game: This Colorado offense resembles some of the zone-run, shotgun-centric offenses we see in the NFL today, like the Eagles. Shurmur keeps Shedeur in the shotgun almost 100% of the time, which is common in today’s game, but it’s understood that everything starts with the run. Running out of shotgun formations can be challenging, and early in the season, fans noticed the play calling was conservative and a bit generic.



Similar to KM/Eagles, although different style of QB’s.


Also Colorado ran pro style route concepts with Pat Shurmur.


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Like most modern offenses, Shurmur’s system relies heavily on the quarterback’s arm and decision-making, but the real intrigue is in the receiver usage.


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Shurmur uses a combination of duo and trio receiver stacks on the perimeter and uses the other receivers to exploit mismatches after Travis has drawn the double team. Pat also almost always works the strong side of the field, which is typical with college football’s wider hash marks, but some teams still prefer boundary play, especially with power runs.


Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:55 am to
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But there are some signs that we might like Shedeur.
What signs? I have spoken with someone who did say they like the player, but sounds like they do not have a 1st round grade on him.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:21 am to
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Voodoo magic baby

I'm not crazy about him, but lets do this
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He didn’t look comfortable in the offense at all. Stupid to judge a player off of the senior bowl.

I agree, but at the same time some of his concerns were highlighted. And naturally, those that see him play from the purple & gold side will also see that he looks great at Bama while surrounded with 1st round talent on the oline & his receiver, and as soon as he doesn't have that same benefit he struggles. Of course, a lot of that is built into the P&G bias, which is further supported by Bama QBs struggling to find success in the NFL. Hurts may be the outlier, but he also had the benefit of learning under Riley for a year (anything to take thw glory from Bama )
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:34 am to
I'm not crazy about him, but lets do this

Re: Milroe Id roll with it.

Imagine Milroe running 22 mph in KM’s offense.

Milroe also throws a good deep ball and his arm looked real at the combine.

Senior bowl concerns that he “cant lineup under center” wont matter in Km’s shotgun based offense.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:42 am to
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If Moore thinks Shedur is his guy then let’s go. Jayden Daniels is the new prototypical QB and he’s built in a similar way.


Sanders and Daniel’s aren’t even in the same stratosphere. Sanders isn’t a running threat, dude is slow.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:00 am to
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Sanders and Daniel’s aren’t even in the same stratosphere.


This is fact. KM may still like Sheduer though. Herbert was a guy who could run but preferred to throw and KM was doing well with him.
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