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re: Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis will never be fired
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:34 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:34 pm to Rohan Gravy
Payton should have a lifetime contract.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:15 pm to Rohan Gravy
You wanting CSP fired clearly shows your arse.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 9:05 am to Rohan Gravy
You are still crying because your boyfriend Orgeron couldn’t hire Nielsen. You make 5 threads a week crying about Payton.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:32 am to BigBrod81
This team wasn’t going anywhere with Winston either man. He is average at best but most of the time he was plain bad.
Truth is the Organization better go out and find a QB…
And some receivers
Truth is the Organization better go out and find a QB…
And some receivers
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:23 pm to tigersquad89
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You are still crying because your boyfriend Orgeron couldn’t hire Nielsen. You make 5 threads a week crying about Payton.
This is complete nonsense.
Sean Payton is the HC of the Saints.
Why wouldn’t I post threads about him after games.
You Coaches in the NFL are required to answer to the press after games.
They also have radio and tv shows.
The question should be….
Why don’t more of you, make more threads critical about Sean Payton on this board?
For most of you, he can do no wrong.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:24 pm to Mouth
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You wanting CSP fired clearly shows your arse.
When did I ever say that?
Show me where I said that, and I’ll show you my arse.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:31 pm to Rohan Gravy
Been here since 09 and to say "for most of you Sean Payton can do no wrong" is laughably, patiently wrong as wrong can be.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:37 pm to KingBarkus
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You know how I know the OP did not experience the miserable year after year after year of terrible Saints football?
I’ve been a fan since one year before the opening kickoff at Tulane stadium against the Rams.
That’s why I’m so critical.
Accepting winning seasons is a losing mindset.
Being happy with our one SuperBowl is a losing mindset.
I want to win more SuperBowls.
I’ve also witnessed three 7-9 seasons under Sean Payton.
I’m not saying he should be fired.
I’m saying he should be willing to grow and learn
And stop doing so much fricking stupid shite that he does.
He needs to be held accountable by the press and the fans.
Neither has happened since the SuperBowl.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:40 pm to Rohan Gravy
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He needs to be held accountable by the press and the fans.
i held him accountable with regards to the mismanagement of Taysom Hill. Which led to what some are considering an apology contract extension.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 2:29 pm to Rohan Gravy
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We have to hope we get a good QB
Or we will wallow in mediocrity
True of literally every NFL team
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:30 pm to SammyTiger
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We have to hope we get a good QB
Or we will wallow in mediocrity
True of literally every NFL team
Yes I agree
We should have started the search 3-5 years ago.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:56 pm to Rohan Gravy
Rohan is just salty that LSU can't hire a coach of Payton's caliber
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:14 pm to Rohan Gravy
No we should just wait till next year and tank
Finding your next franchise QB while you still have your franchise QB is rare.
Rogers replacing Favre
Young replacing Montana sort of.
And we what? Draft who and let him ride the bench till his rookie deal is over? Ouch our drew for which QB in the past 3-5 years?
Finding your next franchise QB while you still have your franchise QB is rare.
Rogers replacing Favre
Young replacing Montana sort of.
And we what? Draft who and let him ride the bench till his rookie deal is over? Ouch our drew for which QB in the past 3-5 years?
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:21 pm to Rohan Gravy
Do you ever shut the frick up?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:40 pm to SammyTiger
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Finding your next franchise QB while you still have your franchise QB is rare.
If the Chiefs don't jump the Saints in 2017, it would have happened.
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Young replacing Montana sort of.
There is no sort of about it. Young replaced Montana. Walsh traded for Young to eventually take Montana's spot. Read up on Bill Walsh. His philosophy was to get rid of veteran players before they started to decline.
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Ouch our drew for which QB in the past 3-5 years?
Drew would have been forced to play elsewhere or retire sooner had the Saints had the opportunity to draft Mahomes at #11 in 2017.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 12:33 am
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:32 pm to BigBrod81
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There is no sort of about it. Young replaced Montana. Walsh drafted Young to take Montana's spot. Read up on Bill Walsh. His philosophy was to get rid of veteran players before they started to decline.
Young wasnt drafted by the 49ers he was picked up after the Bucs drafted Testaverde. He’s also only like 4.5 years younger than Montana and played in the USFL.
He was picked up to be a backup.
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His philosophy was to get rid of veteran players before they started to decline.
They picked up Young before 1987 and Montana was with them through 1992. Young took over after some Injuries. Young took over and basically they lucked into his career.
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Drew would have been forced to play elsewhere or retire sooner had the Saints had the opportunity to draft Mahomes at #11 in 2017.
Ok but they didn’t have that opportunity.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 12:31 am to SammyTiger
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Young wasnt drafted by the 49ers he was picked up after the Bucs drafted Testaverde. He’s also only like 4.5 years younger than Montana and played in the USFL.
I was aware of this already.
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He was picked up to be a backup.
No he was not. Again, read up heavily on Bill Walsh's thoughts on trading for Young & his plans for Young once he was in San Francisco.
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They picked up Young before 1987 and Montana was with them through 1992.
Yes & Walsh during that time benched Montana several times in favor of Young because Walsh felt at times Montana was declining due to injuries. Walsh wanted Young to take over yet Young was still raw in terms of understanding the West Coast offense. Walsh also took his time trying to break Young out of being a running QB & into a pocket passer.
Walsh pushed for Young to take over as early as the 88-89 season which is why Young played in 11 games that year. What Walsh did created some bad blood at the time between Montana, Walsh & Young.
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Young took over after some Injuries.
False. Young took over after Montana was forced out via trade to Kansas City in 1993. The injuries to Montana in 91 & 92 only made Walsh's decision to trade Montana & go to Young less controversial especially with the 49er fans. Young had already shown his potential prior to 1993 filling in for Montana.
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Young took over and basically they lucked into his career.
Steve Young is one of the most physically gifted & accurate QBs to ever play in the NFL. There was no luck surrounding his greatness. What you saw with Young was extreme potential that ended up being tutored by the GOAT when it comes to offensive minds in NFL history. Young himself has talked over the years about his maturation as a pocket passer. Mastering the footwork, timing & reading coverages. Once Young figured it out, it was a wrap. There was no luck involved.
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Ok but they didn’t have that opportunity
It was a lot closer to becoming a reality than you realize. Do you even know KC traded up with Buffalo to get in front of the Saints @ #10 because Andy Reid knew Payton would take Mahomes @ #11?
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 12:40 am
Posted on 11/24/21 at 7:46 am to Rohan Gravy
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Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis will never be fired
That’s cool with me. Payton’s the best thing that ever happened to the Saints and their organization as a whole is getting up there with NE, Pittsburgh, and Ravens level. Only Tards are calling for the firing of Payton.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:43 am to BigBrod81
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Yes & Walsh during that time benched Montana several times in favor of Young because Walsh felt at times Montana was declining due to injuries.
Montana started the majority of games and there was a brief QB controversy but Montona took control of the job and didn’t give it up till he was injured the majority of 91-92.
Montana was the super bowl MVP 89.
He was lucky Young didn’t put it together in Tampa Bay, and he could get him for a decent trade.
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It was a lot closer to becoming a reality than you realize. Do you even know KC traded up with Buffalo to get in front of the Saints @ #10 because Andy Reid knew Payton would take Mahomes @ #11?
Ok but he wasn’t there at 11. So who was supposed to be the replacement?
Posted on 11/24/21 at 11:40 am to SammyTiger
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Montana started the majority of games and there was a brief QB controversy but Montona took control of the job and didn’t give it up till he was injured the majority of 91-92.
There was nothing brief about the controversy despite Montana's on the field success. It was there behind the scenes from the day Young was traded for, to the day that Montana was traded away. The situation was very similar to what Rodgers & Green Bay are going through except the 49ers saga played out much longer. You need to do more reading up on this situation from Young's, Walsh's & Montana's perspective. Also, any 49er fan from that era would also know.
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Montana was the super bowl MVP 89.
You know why? It's because Bill Walsh walked away after the 1988 season & George Seifert took over. Montana didn't have the pressure of Walsh trying to replace him with Young that season but Walsh had already planted the seed of replacing Montana with Young in Eddie DeBartolo's head prior to him walking away. That's why it eventually ended up happening even though Walsh was no longer with the organization.
Walsh battled with severe anxiety. He was an overthinker & worrier. When GMs began to approach Paul Brown about hiring Walsh as a head coach, Brown warned them all about that. Brown told them he's a great offensive mind but his overthinking & drive for perfection would cause him to burn out fairly quickly. Brown was spot on.
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He was lucky Young didn’t put it together in Tampa Bay
Tampa Bay was a shite organization at the time. Young was never going to put it together there which is why Bo Jackson spurned the Bucs as well.
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Ok but he wasn’t there at 11.
First off, you make it seem like the Saints had no plan or intentions to draft Brees replacement when they obviously did. Payton's comments leading up to the draft & since then tell you all you need to know. He did an interview with Mike Florio prior the Super Bowl in 19-20 where Florio asked him about Mahomes & how close the Saints were to drafting him. Payton spoke about the multiple times they flew him to Airline Drive for private workouts. He also said that Mahomes was their highest rated player of any position since he had been head coach of the Saints.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 1:09 pm
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