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re: Schefter: Saints sign Taysom to extension

Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Seeker
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:48 am to
That is why I understand the move to get Stevens (at least I think I do). Aside from likely having a high first round pick to grab a rookie QB, it allows us to have the most options on the table post Drew.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:48 am to
LOL. Naw dude - I dont know how even a 1 year deal at 16 mill (which it is but isnt in reality) still doesnt indicate that we are 100 % going to replace Brees with Taysom.

Maybe if it were a 4 year deal at 16 mill a year.

How the frick does a deal that expires in 2021 mean to you that we’re 100 % all in on Taysom????

Thats a trial run deal.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:50 am to
I have. Thats why Im saying what Im saying.

Could be Taysom.

Could be Jameis.

We’ll see.

Not difficult.

As far as price? So what its a 1 year deal and 2 year deal, we’ve done it the last two years, carrying 3 qbs, etc.

Read the article. Sums it up the Saints thinking as stated.

Taysom/jameis are gonna compete. Drew’s gonna finish his career.

I like the moves.

This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:50 am to
Chad, the idea that the role for a guy that touches the ball 2.8 per game is more important than what would be a backup QB that touches the ball every play is silly.

If Hill were the next Steve Young he wouldn't be playing his joker position next to a guy that threw 30ints last year if Drew were to go down lol.



Im anxious to see how you react when this finally plays out. You've put a lot of energy into this
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Thats a trial run deal.


NO frickING shite. A TRIAL RUN AT STARTING QB OF THE SAINTS. We couldn't ask for a better fricking setup.

Top tier backups make 8 mill a yr. We paid Taysom low tier starting money.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:52 am to
Too many people are obsessed with finding "the quarterback of the future" meaning someone who is in their early or mid-twenties who will be with the Saints for decades. This ignores the reality that this is usually a rare occurrence in the NFL. It also ignores the reality that a franchise like Washington won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks over a nine year period. Plenty of teams win Super Bowls today without an 'franchise' type quarterback or, at least, a quarterback who was not with the team their entire career.
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:54 am to
Idiot is gonna idiot.

Ok Chadboy, even though Taysom is signed on a short 2 year deal, he is now going to be Brees replacement for the long haul.

Thats how you see it youve made it clear. Shut up already.

Is this real? Have we reached the twilight zine?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:56 am to
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That is why I understand the move to get Stevens (at least I think I do). Aside from likely having a high first round pick to grab a rookie QB, it allows us to have the most options on the table post Drew.



I dont think Stevens is a direct thing tied to Hill at all. It's just an easy story to perpetuate.


I think they see an NFL level athlete that could possibly be useful at another position at a cheap price. I dont necessarily think they think that his only path to playing time is to replace Hill. I think they think he can be useful otherwise
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:56 am to
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he is now going to be Brees replacement for the long haul.


Why is long haul relevant at the moment? Why are you moving the goal post? The simple HEIR is all that matters. If Taysom does well, of course the 2 sides will extend from that point.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:57 am to
This can be a nuanced discussion.

First of all, the Saints like Taysom in his role for now.

2nd, if Brees goes down for a short period of time, they likely do not want to completely change the offense for Taysom, which they would have to do. They want a traditional QB that can run the offense in a similar way to Drew for continuity.

If there is a time when Taysom is the starter on a consistent basis, the offense will be changed fairly dramatically to suit him. This is not ideal in season on a temporary basis. Which is why the want a very strong, more traditional backup.

And last, while they may believe strongly in Taysom and think he COULD be a starter in the future, they are not putting their eggs in that basket. They want options, and they want a strong competition with a more traditional player that has huge upside.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Chad, the idea that the role for a guy that touches the ball 2.8 per game is more important than what would be a backup QB that touches the ball every play is silly.

If Hill were the next Steve Young he wouldn't be playing his joker position next to a guy that threw 30ints last year if Drew were to go down lol.


I don’t think this year would set up like it did when Teddy played. Taysom would be QB2 if Drew were to go down. Having a capable QB3 is still value and they deem necessary w how they use Taysom in the meantime.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:00 am to
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It also ignores the reality that a franchise like Washington won three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks over a nine year period.


Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:03 am to
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2nd, if Brees goes down for a short period of time, they likely do not want to completely change the offense for Taysom, which they would have to do. They want a traditional QB that can run the offense in a similar way to Drew for continuity.


Ive read this on twitter a bunch, and I think that simply tells you that Hill is not your guy.

If they are grooming him, what the hell does he do at practice bunch?

-Is he taking no QB reps at all? If he is not....this is your future QB?

-Is he taking QB reps? If so, what is he running and why can't it be ran in a game?



This is just another talking point brought up that does not make any sense.

Hill does not play enough snaps to justifiably say that that role is more important than if they would need him in a full game as a backup QB.

And that tell you where they stand with him. They've brought in two QB's in back to back years to play over him.

I swear, some people act like the offense is built around Taysom Hill. It is fricking baffling Like he cant leave that role to be a backup QB because everything is centered around him.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:07 am to
These are your words moron.

You are the one insisting its a done deal and Taysom is Brees successor.

How the frick can he be Brees successor, but only for one year. The long haul is what a successor is, why are you mentally challenged?

So the long haul is irrelevant now?

So the saints have Taysom set to be Brees succesor, for 1 year??

A 2 year deal with one to play QB if Brees retires does not indicate that the saints have set Taysom as Brees successor.

Youre a fricking clown.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Ive read this on twitter a bunch, and I think that simply tells you that Hill is not your guy.


Maybe.

Or it could tell us what I said. They don't want to have to change the offense IN SEASON for a short-ish period of time.

If Hill were to start the season at QB, they would change the offense for him.

They can think Taysom could be the starter of the future while still wanting to maintain options. I don't think anything is crystal clear, and they are trying to play both sides a bit.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:11 am to
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You are the one insisting its a done deal and Taysom is Brees successor.

How the frick can he be Brees successor, but only for one year. The long haul is what a successor is, why are you mentally challenged?

So the long haul is irrelevant now?

So the saints have Taysom set to be Brees succesor, for 1 year??

A 2 year deal with one to play QB if Brees retires does not indicate that the saints have set Taysom as Brees successor.


So being the starting QB after Drew Brees retires does not mean he's the successor?


Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:13 am to
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Or it could tell us what I said. They don't want to have to change the offense IN SEASON for a short-ish period of time.

If Hill were to start the season at QB, they would change the offense for him.


This isn't 2019 Bunchie. I think they would absolutely use Taysom as QB2. Taysom's growth is different. They had Teddy in the offseason for 2 years last year as well and brought him back on THE TOP PAID backup qb in the league.

It just makes sense to have a legit QB3 and it would have been stupid not to have wanted to bring Jameis into the fold as well.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:19 am to
I hope we never know, but if we had to start a QB short term it would like be Jameis.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:21 am to
There is no reason not to play multiple sides. There may be another guy not even on the roster who has next

You believe Hill is the backup to Brees this year ?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:23 am to
No I think Jameis is.

That doesn't preclude Hill from being the starter in 2021.
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