re: Saints WR Chris Olave looking to make move 'from a good player to an elite player'

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While very true, he has often times displayed a lack of toughness

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I see alot of yall criticizing his toughness, physicality and his catch in traffic ability. When will yall realize he's not that kind of receiver. He's 6' 185 lbs and runs a 4.2 40. Thats like criticizing a screwdriver for not being able to drive a nail.

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it's all about on field dedication, toughness and character.

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I'm not sure I buy that, but thats what we get for drafting any player from ohio state.

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We didn’t give up the draft capital for him to be good. Brandin Cooks was good.

Olave needs to be an elite WR to live up to the billing, a guy that is focus 1 for a defense when playing the saints.

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Weird analogy since the Saints gave up a 3rd rounder to move up in the 1st to draft Cooks. In 2 of his 3 years here, was Cooks the defenses #1 guy to focus on? Saints had Colston & Jimmy his rookie year, then drafted MT in his 3rd year.

I'm dying over here.

Ok well mike was a top 5 WR last year. Wait for him to regress or miss games before you call him washed lol

Where are

Waddle
Devonta smith
George Pickens
McLaurin

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I’d take all to be on my team the next 3 years over Olave (except maybe mclaurin)

And Diggs, Amari cooper, Keenan allen, Godwin are still productive.

Olave hasn’t distinguished himself in a league with a lot of great pass catchers

He can start by catching the ball more often

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I think you're mixing up the trade for Olave and the trade used to be in position for Penning. Now, if they don't make that trade for an extra 1st, do they still go Olave or Penning can be up for debate. But the trade for Olave was a 1st, 3rd & 4th rounder to move from 16th to 11th. The trade for Cooks was a 1st & 3rd rounder to move from 27th to 20th.

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It is admittedly hard to say allocate the eagles trade between penning and Olave, but to say the saints only traded their first, 3rd and 4th pick for Olave isnt accurate either.

The saints traded the eagles a 1st round pick plus a future 1st (turned into the 7th overall pick), second, third and seventh to get two first round picks. Some of that capital has to be viewed as capital to get Olave.

I would argue most of it should be viewed as capital to get Olave because he was the first of the two first rounders taken. It’s especially painful to do when the saints future picks are likely to be high picks vs the environment in which we made the cooks trade.

I do hope Olave takes the next step, and think he may well. But watching Olave for the first two years his play is a a lot of fantasy candy and not enough winning plays.

It was simply a bad trade. It is also probably unfair to hang that weight around Olave’s neck.

I’m game. I fear we’re going to have some time to kill this season.