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re: Saints to sign former 1st RD S Jonathan Abram

Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:06 am to
quote:

dick riding him because he wears black and gold now. Can’t make this shite up.



lol

Why to you guys get so salty when people disagree with you? It's like you grew up spoiled and always having people tell you what you want to hear or agreeing with you. Kind of a bad look when you start getting childish in an adult conversation.

Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5062 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:10 am to
This thread demonstrates just how dumb our fan base is. All of these post ‘09 Saints fans are the worst.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Why to you guys get so salty when people disagree with you?

Because the presented data isn't disagreeable. It is what it is. A guy who misses 15% of his career tackles isn't a good tackler and saying otherwise is like saying the sky is green and the sea is purple.

quote:

It's like you grew up spoiled and always having people tell you what you want to hear or agreeing with you.

It's in fact the opposite, which is funny. People who just get to say whatever they like in the face of presented data that clearly says otherwise are the ones not used to having people disagree.

It's 2023 - you don't just get to say shite with the resources at your fingertips. Jonathan Abrams is not a good tackler.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115958 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:47 am to
You are melting over a former 1st round pick getting signed to a camp contract, something that every team in the league takes shots on.

You are dumb.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:02 am to
Abram missed tackle % by year...
2019 - 28.9%
2020- 13.1%
2021 - 10.8%
2022 - 4.8%

Total number of missed tackles/comb tackles by year...
2019 - 2/5
2020 - 13/86
2021 - 14/116
2022 - 3/60

I'm interested in your 15% number. Here's my link to my data...

LINK

ETA... by my count, he's had 299 tackle opportunities and 32 missed tackles. That's 10.7%

ETA2... I suppose you could've done something dumb like add the missed tackle % up and divide by 4 to get 14.4%. Surely the brilliant victory didn't do that
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:23 am to


quote:

During four NFL seasons, Abram has never developed into the player the Raiders hoped he would after a decorated college career. In particular, he has struggled mightily in coverage, allowing opposing quarterbacks to complete 76 percent of their passes against him for 1,073 yards and 11 touchdowns compared to just three interceptions. Missed tackles have also been a major problem, as Pro Football Focus charged him with 42 of them for a poor 15.3 percent career missed tackle rate.

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/news/johnathan-abram-seattle-seahawks-claimed-off-waivers

Run along now, lil guy.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
3951 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:25 am to
You’re a fricking moron, as usual.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19825 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:28 am to
He’s not good. Has nothing to do with immaturity
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:36 am to
What's PFF's raw numbers? That's a big discrepancy.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:39 am to
BiG DiSCrEpAnCy

Just admit you got caught with your dick in your hand after trying to show your arse. It’d make it a lot easier on you.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:52 am to
I literally linked my data where you can read it yourself.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:54 am to
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This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61309 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:02 pm to
Does signing Abram affect our compensation picks for next year? Anybody know?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:06 pm to
Since you like PFF, you should feel good about our safeties...

Mathieu 81.2
Maye 71.8
Johnson 64.8
Williams 64.0
Adding smoke Monday

Pretty solid group
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:11 pm to
I think he was cut so no?
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

nce you like PFF

Classic non sequitir, lil guy.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1928 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:36 pm to
No Saints fan should question any defense signings. DA has great track putting defense schemes and players together. Saints had Carr last year. Saints had top 5 defense.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:00 pm to
Just noting that you don't like PFF's rating, but you do like their stats they use to formulate the rating.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72029 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:02 pm to
They just tried this last year with Justin Evans, who was a top 50 pick at one point and had better tape than Abram.

This signing doesn't warrant 3 pages We wont even know he's on the team, and if we hear his name called, the season is already fricked so it doesnt matter
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:08 pm to
And the eagles signed Evans. Fringe players get signed all the time by even good teams
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