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re: Saints: No refunds, if you don't want to get vaccinated, sell your tickets on SeatGeek
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:29 pm to tehchampion140
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:29 pm to tehchampion140
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I mean, aside from the already documented potential adverse reactions, which isn't a unique phenomenon to the COVID vaccine, there haven't been any surprise effects that have occurred long after receiving the vaccine and there's currently no reason to suspect that to happen at any point with this vaccine or any other we've ever used in history.
except you're using the rationale that this is a vaccine when its really not. Good Luck. I believe your intentions are good but just are misguided in a lot of ways. You're following a narrative led by a bunch of crooks, criminals, and morons.
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Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:30 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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Polls perform one task dude. They gauge with 100% accuracy the percentage of the population that is willing to participate in a poll. That's it...
So, what's your point? Polls have never been intended to be 100% accurate. There's plenty of objective data showing that by and large areas that are heavily republican have poor vaccination rates. Look at the states at the bottom right now. Again, there are other factors too but don't pretend like politics hasn't played a role in many people's decision on whether or not to vaccinate.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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You are so disingenuous.
Pot meet kettle.
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Looking for a "gotcha" on something irrelevant to the larger point at hand just so you can be smug and try to invalidate anything I say?
Yep.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:32 pm to tehchampion140
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there's currently no reason to suspect that to happen at any point with this vaccine or any other we've ever used in history.
Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.
Compared to:
6,789 reports of death
The data supports the skepticism. You're the one who is too conditioned by the news and twitter to treat any dissent from tonight's corporate-sponsored truth as heresy that you can't even entertain what others might feel about the issues.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:32 pm to tehchampion140
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Oh no, the horror! Next thing you know they're gonna do something crazy like stick our babies with the hepatitis B vaccine or require our kids to get the meningitis vaccine before college. When will it end?
Yes the Gov never did anything unethical. Therefore they will never do anything unethical.
The Public Health Service started the study in 1932 in collaboration with Tuskegee University (then the Tuskegee Institute), a historically black college in Alabama. In the study, investigators enrolled a total of 600 impoverished African-American sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama.[6] Of these men, 399 had latent syphilis, with a control group of 201 men who were not infected.[5] As an incentive for participation in the study, the men were promised free medical care, but were deceived by the PHS, who never informed subjects of their diagnosis[7][8][9][10] and disguised placebos, ineffective methods, and diagnostic procedures as treatment.[11]
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:33 pm to Chad504boy
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except you're using the rationale that this is a vaccine when its really not. Good Luck. I believe your intentions are good but just are misguided in a lot of ways. You're following a narrative led by a bunch of crooks, criminals, and morons.
I will give you the fact that the mRNA is something that hasn't been used in this large of a scale, but again there's no reason to suspect any significant long-term effects other than what immediately shows itself as we've seen with things such as myocarditis or blood clots. I just don't know at what point would people be satisfied with saying we've waited long enough and that the vaccine is safe for them.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:35 pm to tehchampion140
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I just don't know at what point would people be satisfied with saying we've waited long enough and that the vaccine is safe for them.
If i said 5-10 years, i bet that wouldn't be good enough for you.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:36 pm to Chad504boy
So long term effects now show up 6 months after the vaccine? ... you are a dense dumb frick
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:36 pm to tehchampion140
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Ok. I also mentioned facebook articles, which has nothing to do with politics. Any form of vaccine misinformation right now is frustrating to me, regardless of what party, if any, it comes from. Again, what's your point? Looking for a "gotcha" on something irrelevant to the larger point at hand just so you can be smug and try to invalidate anything I say?
you talking about misinformation??? say what?
Look bro, people have reservations about the vaccine's long term effects. unless people start dropping dead ebola style with covid, alot of people will choose to let their own body handle covid. that may not be the best choice for every person but the government has also failed to try and push people to strengthen their immune systems or get healthy. There have been alot of studies that show vitamin d supplements help fight covid infections but I havent seen the government send anyone any vitamins. yet they have no issue handing out money or trying to have lotteries like people are gonna fall for that BS.
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:37 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.
Compared to:
6,789 reports of death
The data supports the skepticism. You're the one who is too conditioned by the news and twitter to treat any dissent from tonight's corporate-sponsored truth as heresy that you can't even entertain what others might feel about the issues.
I get what you're trying to say here, but again the article you linked states those effects occurred days to months after inoculation, not years. It's been over a year since the vaccines have been tested and nothing surprising has happened yet. This is also comparing medicine in 2021 to medicine in 1955. A lot of advancements since then to be proud of.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:37 pm to saints5021
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So long term effects now show up 6 months after the vaccine? ... you are a dense dumb frick
there can be critical long term repercussions to people's immune system. fact is, nobody knows at this point.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:37 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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there's currently no reason to suspect that to happen at any point with this vaccine or any other we've ever used in history.
Oh hey look. The guy who founded Ochsner hospital.
Ochsner injected his grandchildren with the polio vaccine from Cutter Laboratories, a tragic event which killed his grandson and gave his granddaughter polio.
Point being, stop acting like it's so out of turn to be skeptical. It's your right to have them to. I'm sure you have plenty of things that you're unsure about, and I honestly don't really care what they are as long as you're not trying to impact my life with them.
But that's the difference dude. You're trying to impact other people's rights because you think their skepticisms are stupid.
We've been letting people kill themselves with cigarettes and fast food and sunlight for decades.
You don't have to save every one. If people want to not get the shot and die, just let them die.
I mean don't you think that if people were actually dropping like flies in unvaxxed circles, the unvaxxed trend would come to a halt?
This post was edited on 8/17/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:40 pm to Chad504boy
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If i said 5-10 years, i bet that wouldn't be good enough for you.
If we keep having surges like this, honestly it wouldn't. Of course none of us can see the future or know what will continue to happen with this virus. The only thing I'm going on is what I see now, and what I see now is that the vaccine is remarkably effective at preventing death and hospitalization and any adverse reactions documented to date aren't as serious as catching COVID itself in general. That's enough for me, but unfortunately I know it's not enough for a lot of people right now.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:42 pm to tehchampion140
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no one realized that a huge portion of the country would rather listen to political commentators and facebook articles instead of medical professionals
What about the medical professionals that have not gotten the vaccine? The ones that say there are too many unknowns about it. Should I listen to them or only the certain medical professionals that you want me to listen to? Should I just sit back and wait for the FDA to approve the vaccine or just listen to who you want to me listen to?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:47 pm to Louisiana Gator
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What about the medical professionals that have not gotten the vaccine? The ones that say there are too many unknowns about it. Should I listen to them or only the certain medical professionals that you want me to listen to?
I guess you can listen to them if you want to. They are outliers though and not the norm. And of course I'm talking about doctors and not necessarily nurses or PCTs or something like that.
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Should I just sit back and wait for the FDA to approve the vaccine or just listen to who you want to me listen to?
I've heard this, but I have serious doubts that a lot of people claiming they are waiting for this will get the vaccine once it receives full approval. I heard somewhere that 30% of the unvaccinated claimed they'd get it after full approval or something like that. I'd love for it to be true. I'd like it to be 100%. I just have my doubts. We'll see though, it sounds like we could possibly get full approval soon.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:52 pm to Bonkers119
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Bonkers119
This is the only time I'll agree with you, sony fanboy.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:54 pm to tehchampion140
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patients overloading the hospitals
Hasn't happened and maybe if they would staff their hospitals instead of firing people for not getting vaccines they wouldn't have issues keeping up?
Posted on 8/17/21 at 3:55 pm to Fun Bunch
Not sure they will get away with this in the long run...being vaccinated wasn't a stipulatuon at time of purchasing tickets
Posted on 8/17/21 at 4:06 pm to LSUsmartass
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Not sure they will get away with this in the long run...being vaccinated wasn't a stipulatuon at time of purchasing tickets
House of Blues issued refunds for the Better Than Ezra concerts this past weekend over this policy. The policy was announced the day of the first show, although BTE put it on their social media a couple days before.
Posted on 8/17/21 at 4:26 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
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You know we're like three seconds away from this being the mandate to go to the grocery store? Or do you not think that that is forced vaccination?
How about when you can't got to a hospital or school?
Hey check this out?
^literally putting someone in jail because they dont get the shot.
Slope not slippery enough for you?
And what exactly are you going to do about it if they did mandate it? Nothing. Because it’s the gov.
Which is why all this hemming and hawing back and forth is really pointless. If they decide that’s what’s gonna happen, there’s no fighting it.
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