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re: Saints may have to make a trade to upgrade at LG

Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:09 am to
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What I would like is penning and Patrick at guard. Draft a dominant left tackle, and then


Why do people think penning would just automatically fit in at guard?

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Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:12 am to
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Why do people think penning would just automatically fit in at guard?


Bc he’s bad a tackle and it can’t be much worse? Nothing is automatic but you’re already giving him help with the extra TE or RB in pass pro. You may as well put him between the tackle and center

Brandon Scherff, Becton, Risner, Zack Martin, Joel Bitonio, Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans and the list goes on - guys who switched from tackle to guard. I love when a Penning truther clutches their pearls when it’s suggested he move positions, like we’re above moving out turnstile RT to somewhere he could find more success at. Him playing guard and being able to fill at tackle only increases his value
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:49 am to
Both lines need an upgrade big time…
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:04 pm to
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What I would like is penning and Patrick at guard. Draft a dominant left tackle, and then put fuaga At right tackle.


I’ve said for two years I think Penning would make a better guard. He was ok at tackle and should get better.

Depending on how the draft shakes out and if Campbell is the best talent there. Id have no issue putting him at LT, Fuaga at RT where I’d think he’d be even more dominant. And penning st one of the guard spots. The main issue i find is Ruiz is a better center than guard. But probably doesn’t have much trade value with his contract.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:16 pm to
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He was ok at tackle and should get better.


Do you have the time to see if he will get better? It’s been 3 seasons. You have until May 2nd to decide if you’ll pick up his 5th year option at about $17 mil. That’s a no, the good tackles of this free agent cycle are getting that as their AAV

Tbh the best move with Penning is probably to seek out an extension with him. At worst he’s tackle depth. Try him and guard and you could end up with a great value contract - starting guard who can also play tackle
In a pinch
Posted by P bean
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Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:25 pm to
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I love when a Penning truther clutches their pearls when it’s suggested he move positions



No you just like to argue.

Ya’ll know we have Coaches right? Ones last year, and now new ones this year?


Im solid on thinking that they know more than you dumbasses.


If new coaching staff likes Penning at RT and keeps him there please stfu.


Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
69017 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Im solid on thinking that they know more than you dumbasses. If new coaching staff likes Penning at RT and keeps him there please stfu.


The selective deferral to coaches is always a message board favorite of mine. You’ve been a solid poster this offseason and now you’re resorting to your name calling bullshite again. Relax man.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 12:28 pm
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1945 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:29 pm to
Yeah, you have plenty of time. An entire season to figure it out. People don’t understand that not every good player comes out playing incredible. He’s improved. Keep him there and develop him. He def isn’t the biggest weakness on this team like LG is. This team isn’t a contender. The one thing they do have is time to develop a player they spent a first round pick on. He isn’t protecting Brees back there. This team has nothing but time to develop players and get it right.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:33 pm to
My lil beany, you are a simple casual. Stay in your lane bubba. There’s still a spot on this board for your poorly thought out, nonsensical takes

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No you just like to argue.


You’re literally arguing in every thread I click on. You are the Temu version of Chad985Boy
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73374 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Yeah, you have plenty of time


6 weeks before you have to decide to pick up his option. You have to evaluate him by what’s he’s done up until this point. The draft will likely tell us his future
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1945 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 12:47 pm to
You realize they don’t have to decide whether ti keep him or not in 6 weeks right? Just because they don’t pick up his option doesn’t mean you cant resign him? What the down side to to that? Oh he plays really well and you coach him up and you have to extend him earlier? Omg what a terrible thing.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:23 pm to
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The selective deferral to coaches is always a message board favorite of mine. You’ve been a solid poster this offseason and now you’re resorting to your name calling bullshite again. Relax man.



Naw brother, the switch to right tackle was obviously a move the benefitted the team/Penning, and he played well there, especially as a run blocker.

That list of free agents doesnt have pff grades jumping off the screen. What makes you think Penning could switch another position, and play better, than staying at RT and getting better?


Im just here to talk about relevant shite, not arguing about nonsense that NO ONE is legitimately talking about.

Its pretty clear that if we draft someone at line in this draft, theyre moving to LG.

That being said, I would definitely defer to the coaches we got on staff now and last year. They know exponentially more about lineplay than your average saints talk poster.
Thinking otherwise is just foolish.

This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12068 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:23 pm to
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Ya’ll know we have Coaches right? Ones last year, and now new ones this year?


Same coaches that had Baun playing out of position for years?

Or the defensive staff before them that did the same with Hicks?

Both left and became all Pros at positions they should have been playing. So yea let’s just trust all coaching staffs….

Still recall this same bs being said on here when I was told the scouting dept knows better when I said numerous times Branch shoulda been picked over Fosky. Or Achane instead of Miller.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:24 pm to
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solid poster this offseason and now you’re resorting to your name calling bullshite again. Relax man.


Wah brother.

Who cares.

Ya’ll over here hijcking theeads with this nonsense left and right. Im looking at the draft and this list of free agents and you nuts are spinning it into a whole other topic.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Same coaches that had Baun playing out of position for years?


Obviously he was in DAllen’s dog house. I wouldnt blame a position coach for that.

Yeah DA fricked that up, no debate on that.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Or the defensive staff before them that did the same with Hicks?


Akiem Hicks did not sit the bench like Baun.

More like Hendrickson, he played well, and got a bigger contract and we shoulda payed.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Oh he plays really well and you coach him up and you have to extend him earlier? Omg what a terrible thing.



Logic lacking. Lol. Right, where is this evening going?
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:30 pm to
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nonsensical takes


Pot meets kettle. See above comment by rawdawg.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Keep him there and develop him. He def isn’t the biggest weakness on this team like LG is.


Fact.

Not to mention that all three of the top lineman in the draft, Campbell, Mizzous tackle, and Banks from Texas, all have more guard measureables than tackle, and are already being projected as potential guards by teams because of it.

Literally a huge topic during the combine.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73374 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 4:19 pm to
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You realize they don’t have to decide whether ti keep him or not in 6 weeks right? Just because they don’t pick up his option doesn’t mean you cant resign him? What the down side to to that? Oh he plays really well and you coach him up and you have to extend him earlier? Omg what a terrible thing.


You want to evaluate him under team control as long as you can. The 5th year option is an advantage to the team; you did give up a load to take him in the 1st rd.

Extending him after he plays well or letting him play well and get to the open market where you have to negotiate against other teams would be peak Saints. So yes, that’s a terrible thing

I’m not even shitting on the guy. Extend him now while his value is tanked
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