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Saints made the list

Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:12 am
Posted by lsu4life77
Member since Jun 2010
1513 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:12 am
ESPN's 6 hopeless teams!!
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Trade Derek Carr. Even if it just means landing a seventh-round pick in return, trading Carr would allow New Orleans to avoid paying his $10 million bonus and free up $11.3 million in space. While he has a no-trade clause, it's tough to imagine him sticking around for what would be a lame-duck season.

Designate Hill and Marshon Lattimore as post-June 1 releases. While the Saints can make more money by designating other players as post-June 1 departures, the only real way to make cap space in moving on from either of these players is to use the June 1 distinction. Of course, while this frees up an extra $30 million in 2025, it also pushes nearly $28 million in dead money for Hill and Lattimore into the 2026 cap.

Release Ryan Ramczyk and Alvin Kamara. Ramczyk (knee) could retire this offseason, and the Saints might rework his deal to create more short-term cap room, as they did with Brees and Malcolm Jenkins before their retirements. Kamara is entering the final year of his deal, and while he has been productive this season, they can't justify a $22.4 million base salary for their star back in the final year of his deal. This is another $25 million off the books.

Restructure Jordan's deal. His two-year, $28 million extension that created cap space a year ago might turn out to be the worst deal in football, given that he has barely been productive and was taken out of the starting lineup in Year 1. Only $1.5 million of his $12.5 million base salary in 2025 is guaranteed, but the structure of his deal and the various restructures the Saints have made put them in an accounting bind. They could designate Jordan as a post-June 1 release, but giving the veteran one more year frees up $10 million, which will eventually make it onto the 2026 cap.

That's $82.3 million in new cap space, but it involved the Saints moving on from their starting quarterback, running back, multiposition playmaker and lead cornerback. In this scenario, they also wouldn't re-sign pass rusher Chase Young or tight end Juwan Johnson, whose contracts void after 2024. They'll need to clear out more space to fill out their roster. And they're still left with nearly $38 million in new dead money on their 2026 cap, when they'll deal with several of the other veterans remaining on this list.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 7:15 am
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128544 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:23 am to
lol we are so fricked
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14592 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:52 am to
Selfishly, I’d love for us to somehow hold onto hill and kamara.. but I just don’t see how that’s possible



Everyone else can gtfo
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1822 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:20 am to
LOL that this is the best case scenario... cut all your best players and still be too fricked to do anything.
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
4322 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:42 am to
Whoever wrote that article should replace Loomis immediately and begin the implosion.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1817 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:56 am to
This is what a competent organization would do. They forgot to mention a new HC. DA is a loser.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17180 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:08 am to
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lol we are so fricked


Just like everyone knew we would be once management finally let go of the Brees era success and embraced the fact that they need to rebuild and stop chasing ghosts.

The soft rebuild didn't work. Time for a hard reset/rebuild. It has to happen if there is any hope for this franchise.

Some fans will still complain about not being a good team and losing all the time, but most will accept the few suckage years knowing that the team is moving forward to a more potentially prosperous future.

The longer they wait to pulling that trigger the longer the hell years will be to get to the other side.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 11:57 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:25 am to
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This is what a competent organization would do. They forgot to mention a new HC. DA is a loser.


No competent HC is taking this shitshow on. Spare me there are only 32 of these, Ben Johnson preferred being one of 32 OCs to chase a ring and wait for the best opportunity (Burrow anyone)?

Better off with shitty coaching and get better picks that we might get lucky and actually hit on. Move DA after 25 or 26.

Ticket sales will drop and bags/boos will be on the rise but that’s on Loomis and maybe Gayle for being a detached blind loyalist to a grossly incompetent management team.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 9:37 am to
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Restructure Jordan's deal. His two-year, $28 million extension that created cap space a year ago might turn out to be the worst deal in football, given that he has barely been productive and was taken out of the starting lineup in Year 1


Funny I said this exact thing in the other thread about Carr and Hill bring the worse contracts in the league…..

And Cajun cannon said Micky is a top 10 gm of all time lmao….

Years ago I said we had one chance to get out of csp hell and that was to go as cheap as possible at quarterback. One year prove it deals for a couple years. Instead Micky double downed with Carr..
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57241 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:49 pm to
God damn Loomis
It's been enough years from Brees, the rebuild should have begun a few years ago
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
2134 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Trade Derek Carr. Even if it just means landing a seventh-round pick in return, trading Carr would allow New Orleans to avoid paying

Who in the actual frick does this guy think would take Carr’s contract on? We may have to give up picks for someone to take Carr
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72461 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

No competent HC is taking this shitshow on. Spare me there are only 32 of these, Ben Johnson preferred being one of 32 OCs to chase a ring and wait for the best opportunity (Burrow anyone)? Better off with shitty coaching and get better picks that we might get lucky and actually hit on. Move DA after 25 or 26.


We gonna get Gruden bra!!!
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
Member since Feb 2018
2772 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:33 pm to
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Which team has it worst? I have to go with the Saints. While they could have competed for a playoff berth before the injuries, the defensive collapse I've witnessed over the past few weeks and the sheer amount of time it will take to return to being a cap-compliant team on a growth track is staggering. They are a couple of years away from even being in position to start a multiyear rebuilding process.

While the Browns are stuck with the worst contract in the league as part of the Watson fiasco, they have more young and prime-aged talent on their roster than the Saints. And while the Panthers are a mess, they at least have some flexibility and can clear out room without many major commitments. The Panthers probably have hit bottom. The Saints still have a long way to go.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3634 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:55 pm to
Good. Boycott all things Saints and cost Bensuck hundreds of thousands of dollars each week that Dennis the Menace is still employed.
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