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re: Saints/Loomis/Payton accused of drug cover up-Shite just got real
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:03 pm to TexasTiger6777
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:03 pm to TexasTiger6777
The ironic thing of all this is that Payton and Loomis have been real big on player character and conduct, on and off the field. If it turns out they did something wrong (and I'm hopeful they didn't) they'll be ripe for major criticism at the very least. Regardless, I expect Drew will hold this team together come hell or high water.
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:29 pm to kclsufan
maybe it will help with coaches street cred with some player?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:34 pm to cajunatc
dang, I leave town for a couple of days and things fall apart 
I read deadspin for entertainment but they had a surprisingly balanced take on this-
This is one of those suits where we're actually reserving judgment, instead of just claiming to because we're supposed to. On one hand, it sounds like a classic disgruntled employee, looking for cash (initially $2 million, according to Florio). On the other hand, Santini claims to have hidden camera footage of Vitt raiding the medicine cabinet, and hidden microphone recordings of conversations with Patton, Loomis and others about the cover-up. If he can produce those, then maybe we've got a full-fledged scandal on our hands here.
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I read deadspin for entertainment but they had a surprisingly balanced take on this-
This is one of those suits where we're actually reserving judgment, instead of just claiming to because we're supposed to. On one hand, it sounds like a classic disgruntled employee, looking for cash (initially $2 million, according to Florio). On the other hand, Santini claims to have hidden camera footage of Vitt raiding the medicine cabinet, and hidden microphone recordings of conversations with Patton, Loomis and others about the cover-up. If he can produce those, then maybe we've got a full-fledged scandal on our hands here.
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
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The DEA is investigating. Payton is a pill popper...no biggie.
Coming from a guy with a username about the biggest cheat baseball has ever seen.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:05 pm to THRILLHO
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And I hope he gets prosecuted for extortion
if he demanded money for being fired (due to this), it's not extortion
you need to threaten to go to the police
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:13 pm to Fububutsy
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about the biggest cheat baseball has ever seen.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:20 pm to blueslover
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looking for cash (initially $2 million,
good luck getting that. How did he have $2 million in damages again?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:34 pm to TigerBait1127
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How did he have $2 million in damages again?
if this goes to trial and he wins the suit, i doubt he'll get $2M
if this story is true, it's probably worth $2M to keep him quiet. the problem is that EVERY OTHER employee who knew about this would have to be paid off also
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if this story is true, it's probably worth $2M to keep him quiet. the problem is that EVERY OTHER employee who knew about this would have to be paid off also
I'm thinking the best idea, if the guy only has the video evidence against Vitt, is to pay Vitt to take the fall. He's the one on video, have him say he was the only one that had anything to do with it, and pay him off to take the all of the consequences (again, probably no jail time anyway). I'm sure they'd rather give Vitt any payoff $ than this Santini guy.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:53 pm to THRILLHO
it's like the reggie bush situation
he's going to depose every member of the saints organization to make them commit perjury or admit to illegal activity
(assuming the allegations are true. there seems to be a good bit of smoke but that doesn't mean it's true)
he's going to depose every member of the saints organization to make them commit perjury or admit to illegal activity
(assuming the allegations are true. there seems to be a good bit of smoke but that doesn't mean it's true)
Posted on 5/2/10 at 4:54 pm to THRILLHO
They f'd up when they didnt just fire Vitt in the beginning. The guy got caught stealing pills twice. Then was reprimanded and got caught AGAIN doing it. He shouldve been gone a long time ago.
All they had to say is that he wanted to spend time with his family and nobody wouldve thought twice about it.
All they had to say is that he wanted to spend time with his family and nobody wouldve thought twice about it.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 6:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ummm, that's not exactly how it works...
No judge is going to allow everyone in the organization to be deposed. It's also assuming the suit doesn't get thrown out via a motion to dismiss. In reference to "commit[ting] perjury or admit[ting] illegal activity," those deposed will be prepped sufficiently I'm sure. There are various shades of gray in every situation.
No judge is going to allow everyone in the organization to be deposed. It's also assuming the suit doesn't get thrown out via a motion to dismiss. In reference to "commit[ting] perjury or admit[ting] illegal activity," those deposed will be prepped sufficiently I'm sure. There are various shades of gray in every situation.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 6:43 pm to eyeran
This is insane, though the former FBI agent talked about it, resigned a month later and at that point stated he was going to take legal action...that is the prefered method for somebody when there is a little truth involved. i hope it is not true....as a current government employee, that is what i would do.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:19 pm to eyeran
I'm now hearing it was only 8-12 pills unaccounted for. Does anyone know if this is true?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:44 pm to eddieray
DEA is investigating now.
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NEW ORLEANS -- Federal authorities are looking into allegations made in a civil lawsuit accusing the Saints of trying to cover up a senior staff member's theft of prescription Vicodin pills from the team's training headquarters.
"The DEA was referred this case, and there is a pending investigation," said Special Agent Roberto Bryan Jr., a New Orleans-based spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration.
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:56 pm to kclsufan
The Vicodin was prolly for Reggie Bush's parents.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:19 pm to Farva
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No judge is going to allow everyone in the organization to be deposed.
if this thing goes as high as loomis, most everyone is fair game. i only meant the real players
vitt, SP, loomis, maybe a benson, probably some players, the doctor team, etc
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It's also assuming the suit doesn't get thrown out via a motion to dismiss.
i said the allegations would be true
and don't you mean an exception for no cause of action?
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In reference to "commit[ting] perjury or admit[ting] illegal activity," those deposed will be prepped sufficiently I'm sure.
pleading the 5th will be enough for the court of public opinion and the NFL
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There are various shades of gray in every situation.
not if there is a video of a guy taking pills out of their storage area and audio of people talking about covering it up
Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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vitt, SP, loomis, maybe a benson, probably some players, the doctor team, etc
Exactly. More like 5 people.
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don't you mean an exception for no cause of action?
Sure. I'm not licensed in LA. Same idea, I presume.
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pleading the 5th will be enough for the court of public opinion and the NFL
But that's changing the subject, don't you think?
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not if there is a video of a guy taking pills out of their storage area and audio of people talking about covering it up
True, but I still think there are numerous gray areas. In any event, they aren't going to get in there and admit everything because of pointed questioning. There will be some explanation offered if it even gets to that stage.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:38 am to Farva
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But that's changing the subject, don't you think?
not of it's a shakedown
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There will be some explanation offered if it even gets to that stage.
there is no explanation for a video of a coach committing a felony
the audio is the bigger worry, as it allegedly implicates SP and possibly loomis
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:15 am to tigerbait3488
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Vicodin is a controlled substance...not a narcotic. I work in pharmacy and its my job to know this. A narcotic is a schedule 2. Vicodin is a schedule 3 controlled substance. Soma was not sonsidered a controlled until last year. So to the people who want me to know the facts...get a fricking clue.
Just kill yourself......before you kill customers.
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