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re: Saints expected to restructure Carr
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:23 pm to Proximo
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:23 pm to Proximo
quote:
We aren’t drafting top 5 with Carr, it’s a fact of life. No reasonable alternative is magically showing up on our doorstep How many years do teams go through to find a QB? Are you seriously arguing teams don’t go 5, 10 years before finding a legitimate starter? We already have one
Correct take.
Hey lets be Carolina with Bryce Young! Derpppppp. fricking idiots on here.
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Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:24 pm to paulbeasy
quote:
Yeah, every GM in the NFL considers those players equals
Nobody said that
They're all mediocre to barely playable. Carr is in that tier. He doesn't raise our ceiling much, if at all, so effectively there isn't a difference.
We're mediocre with all of them.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:24 pm to paulbeasy
quote:
Hey lets be Carolina with Bryce Young!
I'd LOVE to be Houston right now
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/4/24 at 4:29 pm to Proximo
quote:
We aren’t drafting top 5 with Carr, it’s a fact of life
Who said anything about drafting a QB in the top 5?
quote:
How many years do teams go through to find a QB? Are you seriously arguing teams don’t go 5, 10 years before finding a legitimate starter?
I was actually arguing it doesn’t take 5-10 years to build a competitive team. Which it does not. It’s not just about finding a QB. Of course there are teams that struggle for years on end but that’s because those are incompetent organizations. If that’s the case then Derek Carr doesn’t matter we’ve already seen him with an incompetent franchise.
Now I don’t think the Saints are incompetent, though they have made some moves lately that do keep teams stuck
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Trevor Simien career win % - 45.4%
Derek Carr career win % - 45.3%
Derek Carr career win % - 45.3%
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:36 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
Trevor Simien career win % - 45.4%
Derek Carr career win % - 45.3%
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:50 pm to GynoSandberg
How about an actual qb stat to judge them?
Passer rating career...
TS - 78.7
DC - 92.3
Anyone equating these 2 is a moron
Passer rating career...
TS - 78.7
DC - 92.3
Anyone equating these 2 is a moron
Posted on 2/4/24 at 6:58 pm to msstate7
Things I've learned reading this board...
Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, and nick foles are better than guys like Dan Marino, Warren moon, Jim Kelly, and Phillip
Rivers. Eli manning is better than Drew Brees. Super bowls are a qb stat, not team
Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, and nick foles are better than guys like Dan Marino, Warren moon, Jim Kelly, and Phillip
Rivers. Eli manning is better than Drew Brees. Super bowls are a qb stat, not team
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:00 pm to msstate7
quote:
Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, and nick foles are better than guys like Dan Marino, Warren moon, Jim Kelly, and Phillip Rivers. Eli manning is better than Drew Brees. Super bowls are a qb stat, not team
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
Well what makes TS and DC comparable if wins aren't the stat to judge a qb by?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:08 pm to msstate7
Was stafford a good qb at Detroit? 74-90-1 (.451) and 0-3 in playoffs. At Carr's current age, stafford had never won a playoff game. Did he become good when he won the Super Bowl or did LA want him bc he was already good?
Career passer rating...
Stafford - 91.0
Carr - 92.3
Career passer rating...
Stafford - 91.0
Carr - 92.3
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:08 pm to msstate7
quote:
Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, and nick foles are better than guys like Dan Marino, Warren moon, Jim Kelly, and Phillip
Rivers. Eli manning is better than Drew Brees. Super bowls are a qb stat, not team
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:11 pm to msstate7
quote:
Well what makes TS and DC comparable if wins aren't the stat to judge a qb by?
Our team is handicapped by dead cap and an aging roster with a weak coaching staff.
Short of the elite of the elite (Mahomes and Allen), no QB could salvage this team
So, if you're going to be mediocre, then what's the difference in Carr and a guy like Semien, or Jameis, or Dalton? We literally have data to look at this.
7-9 wins.
No playoffs.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
I just made some for this board
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:31 pm to msstate7
quote:
How about an actual qb stat to judge them? Passer rating career... TS - 78.7 DC - 92.3 Anyone equating these 2 is a moron
Correct take.
quote:
In terms of titles, he is.
SFP is in fact a moron. Unreal.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:32 pm to paulbeasy
quote:
Correct take.
In terms of titles, he is.
SFP is in fact a moron. Unreal.
Carr is a slightly better QB than Semien, Jameis (maybe not Dalton).
Carr is not a good enough QB to elevate the Saints above mediocrity.
Why pay top dollar for a QB who can't move the needle?
I can't tell if you people are just happy getting 7-9 wins every year or you think that we are a title contender, but I reject both.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:33 pm to msstate7
quote:
Our team is handicapped by dead cap
Still pretending huh? 12th last year in dead cap and again we dont know yet where we will be in 2024. Shut the frick up already.
quote:
Was stafford a good qb at Detroit? 74-90-1 (.451) and 0-3 in playoffs. At Carr's current age, stafford had never won a playoff game. Did he become good when he won the Super Bowl or did LA want him bc he was already good? Career passer rating... Stafford - 91.0 Carr - 92.3
Correct take.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Carr is a slightly better QB than Semien, Jameis (maybe not Dalton). Carr is not a good enough QB to elevate the Saints above mediocrity.
You can repeat stupid shite all you want but it doesn’t make anything correct. Carr was not a top 5 reason why we didn’t make the playoffs this year. He is a top 3 reason we nearly did.
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