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re: Roman Harper returning to the Saints

Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:46 am to
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:49 am to
I like it as a box safety signing. I think Bell/Vaccaro will be in coverage and/or nickel spots way more than he'd ever be
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:05 pm to
Like I said in another thread, I like it because this team needs leadership. It's extremely young. I underestimated the value Harper, Jenkins, Vilma and Smith had in the lockerroom, which led to the rise of Junior and the arse clown committee.

Harper will be a good mentor for Vaccaro, can play in some packages and here's where it gets interesting...

Been a lot of talk recently about playing three Safeties. Sounds like we're going back to the 2013 D that worked really well. Harper is like another coach on the field and can help Allen with the install.

What's messed up about this entire situation is that it's becoming abundantly clear that Payton/Loomis completely botched the D the last two years. Rob Ryan is not without fault, but he was truthful in the statements about the change to the Seattle D.

Payton needs to just butt the hell out of the D. The only time we've ever had a good D in his time, is when he let Williams/Ryan do their own thing.

It's evident 2013 D is the scheme. Kikaha takes on the Galette role. Byrd = Jenkins, Vaccaro going back to his hybrid role, Bell will play the Rafael Bush role and Harris/Harper will do what Harper did that year.

Laurinitis takes over for Lofton and Ellerbe for Hawthorne and Anthony for Harylson.

They are placing a premium on smart players who know their assignment. This D was really good but didn't create many turnovers. It also looked weak after Jabari went down.

But with a healthy Lewis and Breaux and somebody from Williams and Swann stepping up, we should be pretty damn solid.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:08 pm to
We're keeping 4 or 5 safeties. Byrd, Vaccaro, & Bell are locks. So Jamarca Sanford, Erik Harris, Alden Darby, & Trae Elston are his competition. Imo, we keep Harper & Sanford. The other 3 would have to REALLY shine in the preseason to take one of these guys spots.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:17 pm to
Moscona was asked what he thought of the signing:

quote:

I think we won't see much of Jairus Byrd this year
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
Member since Jan 2015
4532 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:20 pm to
After watching that gif, who would of thought the saints wouldn't have graham anymore, and harper is on the team now.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:22 pm to
On "paper" this D is close to the 2013 version.

CB: Greer - Breaux - Maybe slight advantage to Breaux and he's definitely the ascending player.
CB:Lewis - Lewis - 2013 Lewis was obviously great. This is probably the biggest ? right now.
NB:Corey White - Swann/PJ Williams - We SHOULD be better here than 2013
S Hybrid: Vaccaro to Vaccaro - Hopefully he's improved since his rookie year.
FS: Jenkins - Byrd - Honestly, in this D they're about the same. Decent players but not playmakers for whatever reason.
SS: Bush - Bell - Bush was really good in 2013. I think we lose physicality but gain play making.
MLB: Lofton - Laurintis - Lofton sucked so can't see how we'd be much worse. I would think even after a few bad years, JL is better in coverage.
WLB: Hawthorne to Ellerbe/Robertson - Clear upgrade in every way.
SLB: Harylson to Anthony - Major upgrade in athleticism.
DE: Jordan to Jordan - Wash
DE: Hicks to Richardson/Onyemata - Hicks was really good in 2013 so this is a question mark.
Jack DE: Galette to Kikaha - The potential is there for Kikaha. If nothing else, he won't be an a-hole.
DT - Bunkley/Jenkins to Jenkins, Davison, Fairley, Rankins...Huge upgrade in interior pass rushing.

On paper if Kikaha can = Galette production and Lewis is healthy/effective, this D is equally if not more talented than a Top 5 2013 D.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:26 pm to
Holder said we ran a lot of 3 S sets in OtAs similar to 2013 and thinks this move is a part of that.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:29 pm to
May not even make the final 53.
Posted by Shane4689
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:48 pm to
recent pic of Roman Harper:

Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

If he starts I hate it.


Between Vaccaro, Bell, and Even Byrd he doesn't need to start. And hell Sanford is good for a spot start or two.

But as a mentor to two young safeties he'll be invaluable. And you can give him 10-20 snaps a game in certain packages.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:50 pm to
quote:


the Saints have been drastically missing leadership since Harper, Jenkins, Sproles, etc. etc. were let go.



Add Smith and Vilma and subtract Sproles and you have it right.

Sproles was not a leadership figure.
Posted by Oddibe
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:54 pm to
i read it as Darren Sharper and was like WTF! Glad I googled it.
Posted by Magazine St
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:57 pm to
I hope he's going to coach. I can't get with the coverage liability he brings.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:05 pm to
Coaching, installing and added depth is why Harper was brought back.
Not to start.
Must admit never saw this one coming.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

On paper if Kikaha can = Galette production and Lewis is healthy/effective, this D is equally if not more talented than a Top 5 2013 D
They won't finish anywhere near top 5, though.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35402 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:28 pm to
Isn't the definition of insanity continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results?
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6606 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:33 pm to
Like go back to a scheme that finished in the top 5?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:37 pm to
Hell I hope they can finish top 25
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 2:20 pm to
Bobby & Deke going to love this pickup as they pretty much talked to him weekly on the radio when he was in Carolina
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