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Revisiting Butler: This year should we?

Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:54 pm
He had a rough start, but he's turned it around.

PFF: 82.0 grade, 21st ranked, 1 penalty, 7 games

Crawley has played well, but the # of penalties is going to catch up to us sooner or later. He's currently at 5, 2 were on 3rd downs, in 6 games.

With 35mil in cap, we're likely to spend 25mil in space on Brees, Vaccaro, Snead, Coleman, Kelemete, and Breaux. I think Okafor is the odd man out, someone is gonna throw $$$.

That leaves us with 10mil, enough for a big name and a few complementary pieces (not including cuttable players: stupar, strief, fleener, etc).
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61285 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:59 pm to
Nope. Lattimore, Crawley, Breaux (if he comes back) Williams, Harris, Moore...we've got good depth at CB. Spend the money elsewhere, like LB, DT, Edge rusher, WR, or TE
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5031 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:06 pm to
Id rather use that money to re-sign Okafor. Its looking more and more like Kikaha wont be around much longer. Tired of rotating guys in at that spot every year...scrape up some money and re-sign him.
Posted by Pastalaya
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
816 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

With 35mil in cap, we're likely to spend 25mil in space on Brees, Vaccaro, Snead, Coleman, Kelemete, and Breaux. I think Okafor is the odd man out, someone is gonna throw $$$.


Keepers: Brees, Vaccaro, Snead, Kelemente, Okafor

They will not re-up for Coleman unless he goes bonkers and honestly I believe Breaux's fate is sealed w/ the emergence of Crawley. Also PJ Williams isn't terrible and all of them are more durable than Breaux at this point.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:12 pm to
Nah want too much
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:18 pm to
Butler wouldn't start on this team when everyone is healthy. I do not understand the love affair...the dude gets burned like Waffle House toast. Doesn't impress me.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:36 pm to
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He's currently at 5, 2 were on 3rd downs, in 6 games.



Actually 4 games. He didn't play the first two. So more than one a game.

On Butler, I was so bent on getting him because I thought there was no way in hell Lattimore would fall to us. He was the one guy I thought could come in and play at a high level right away. Even then, with rookies you never know.

But no at this point I'd rather roll with Crawley and see if Breaux can return to form. The asking price is too high and he'll need to get paid. I was okay with that when we didn't have a number one corner. We do now.
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
Member since Jan 2015
4532 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:46 pm to
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we're likely to spend 25mil in space on Brees,


He's owed 18 million next year not even under contract. Brees is going to cost us about 35-40 million
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:48 pm to
Only if he hits FA, and $6 mil of that is already counting.

He may cost us around $24-26 mil more, so $30-32 mil total if we extend him before.

If he hits FA we are kind of fricked with signing a big QB.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22728 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:50 pm to
I was wrong. See bone’s post.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:51 pm to
Edit the edit.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:52 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

He's owed 18 million next year not even under contract. Brees is going to cost us about 35-40 million



Cap Space =/= cost.

I trust Loomis to fix that up. It still allows us a good bit of space
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:54 pm to
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Actually 4 games. He didn't play the first two. So more than one a game.


How could I forget Harris being active and him not. Whoops.

Either way, makes it worse. Lol

Vs green bay was a big reason why he could be a liability.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:55 pm
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:14 pm to
He’s a 2nd year guy that hasn’t even come close to full potential....

..and he was covering Jordy Nelson on a shitty field.

He actually did a heck of a job


And he will only get better
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12050 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

the dude gets burned like Waffle House toast


yo, what waffle house do you go to? I always have to ask them to burn it or it comes back as barely toast.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7893 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:54 pm to
I honestly feel the contract Brees will demand is tied to this years results.

We go 11-5 and win the division he asks for a 18 mil. Per year contract

We go 7-9 and he asks for 25 mil per year.

We are only two pieces away from greatness. A middle linebacker and playmaking tight end
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64219 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:44 pm to
No
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5364 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:43 am to
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Butler wouldn't start on this team when everyone is healthy.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24835 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:48 am to
We need a legit edge rusher, a DT, a safety, offensive line depth, and another LBer before we address CB.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40093 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:42 am to
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We need a legit edge rusher, a DT, a safety, offensive line depth, and another LBer before we address CB.


Ansah is the only available edge that I saw on the 2018 FA list that would potentially make a difference.

Will have to draft one.

DT / Dontari Poe having a good year?

Draft OL

Draft another S

Of the 2018 still available:

Kam Chancellor
Thomas Davis (another LB stopgap)
Ansah
Jimmah Graham
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