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Payton’s contractual term and compensation

Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25126 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:01 am
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The Saints still hold Payton’s contractual rights, at least through 2024. Arguably, they’re entitled to compensation for his services indefinitely. He left with three years remaining on his contract. The Saints could take the position that he can’t simply sit out for three years and then go wherever he wants, that his contract tolls after he voluntarily walks away.

It’s an issue that could end up in a legal battle if a coach ever quits with one year left on his contract, and then tries to join another team after sitting out a year. It won’t be an issue with Payton, because he won’t be sitting out three years. He almost didn’t sit out one year.

PFT

Remember when several of you claimed that you absolutely knew his rights would expire in ‘24 and we’d get nothing? Here’s another lawyer telling you, not so fast.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37427 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:06 am to
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Here’s another lawyer telling you, not so fast.


Case law is pretty clear that he can’t simply sit out and walk away from the contract. Of course we don’t know exactly what his contract says.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
12017 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:22 am to
Bruh, it wont get ugly because the FO will allow him to leave early as a thank you.

2 2nds and Id be impressed.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2602 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:39 am to
NFL executives said he is worth a 1st rd pick.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:57 am to
payton semi shitting on DA doesn't help his case if he thinks we gonna be super friendly and let him walk for nothing.

eta: nor does us losing and sitting here in mysery.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32446 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:02 am to
Loomis will do his boy a favor. The compensation will make the CJ trade look hefty.
Posted by oncealurker
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:17 am to
He’ll get traded this off-season for a 1st and a 3rd
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13655 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:29 am to
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Loomis will do his boy a favor. The compensation will make the CJ trade look hefty.


And this is why you get rid of Loomis before that and get in a new guy with no allegiance.

I am thankful for what Payton did for The team and city, but he is the one that bailed on his commitment, and not the Saints.

You hold him accountable for the terms of his deal and if you as a company have the right to fight it to be in to perpetuity, then you do.

The most successful teams are successful because they don’t play the sentimental game. Period. Patriots are a example.

You paid him handsomely for his time here, a little leeway is one thing, but not what they are asking.

Hold firm with 2 firsts and holding onto his rights beyond 2024 based on your legal rights. Chances are he is going to a team with a late first, which is worth way less to begin with.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:31 am to
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And this is why you get rid of Loomis before that and get in a new guy with no allegiance.


Not worried about Loomis as much as Gayle.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21274 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:32 am to
Loomis will send Payton's chosen team our 1st round picks in 2024, 2025 and 2026 to let him sign with a new franchise and take Michael Thomas.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23102 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:42 am to
What were CPSs comments on DA last week again? I forgot.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36333 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:33 am to
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this is why you get rid of Loomis before that and get in a new guy with no allegiance.


Short of a scandal, Loomis is t going anywhere. Just put that notion out of your mind. Loomis is a future owner of the Saints and your best bet is for him to take a figurehead job and promote someone else to GM.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37427 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:49 am to
The price has to be two 1sts. The market will be competitive for Sean imo. We shall see.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77184 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:13 am to
Loomis owes nothing to a coach who's agent was in contact with miami about CSP coaching there. Why some of yall think this is no big deal in the nfl world is a mystery
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25957 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:38 am to
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Bruh, it wont get ugly because the FO will allow him to leave early as a thank you.


A thank you.
That’s what the contract and all the money was for lol
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 11:39 am
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:43 am to
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The price has to be two 1sts. The market will be competitive for Sean imo. We shall see.


My guess is the Saints get a 3rd or 4th round pick back for him.
Posted by saints63213
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
252 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:35 pm to
Compensation is worth talking about my guess saints ask for 2 1st and more including other high draft picks AND players then settle for something like this:
1- 1st
1- 2nd or 3rd
And a player like Josh Palmer or Jerry Jeudy
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
14107 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:51 pm to
The fact that the Saints were a game away from the playoff with Winston-Simeon-Hill-Book at QB shows Peyton’s worth. He’s a good coach, period. The Saints need to gamble on a younger offensive minded coach like the Dolphins got.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77184 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
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My guess is the Saints get a 3rd or 4th round pick back for him.


Oooooo lets ban bet that its more for 2023.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34965 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:01 pm to
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Loomis will do his boy a favor. The compensation will make the CJ trade look hefty.


I've always been of this stance but I'm starting to change my mind.

Loomis knows he has to get a good return for payton.
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