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Other Tradable players not named Cooks
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:15 am
Are there any other pieces the saints might consider trading besides Cooks?
Do we cut bait on Anthony and try to get a 5th rounder or could we even get that.
Maybe a low pick for Strief for a team looking to shore up their right side?
Any other ideas out there? Its a slow day so thought I would see what the board's opinion on this was.
Do we cut bait on Anthony and try to get a 5th rounder or could we even get that.
Maybe a low pick for Strief for a team looking to shore up their right side?
Any other ideas out there? Its a slow day so thought I would see what the board's opinion on this was.
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:17 am to mindbreaker
Not Sack Strief!!
I don't think anyone really. WR makes the most sense. Only place we are good AND deep.
I guess one of our safeties could have made sense if we had kept Byrd.
I don't think anyone really. WR makes the most sense. Only place we are good AND deep.
I guess one of our safeties could have made sense if we had kept Byrd.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:20 am to mindbreaker
For how young Anthony is, and the fact that we have him 2 (or 3 if the option is picked up) more years, you aren't trading him.
Strief is great value for the price. Yes we can upgrade but you don't trade him unless we upgrade first. The bigger problem is going to be finding a team that wants an over 30 tackle that struggles against speed.
Not sure we have anyone else that is far enough in their contract or cheap enough that anyone would want aside from Snead.
Strief is great value for the price. Yes we can upgrade but you don't trade him unless we upgrade first. The bigger problem is going to be finding a team that wants an over 30 tackle that struggles against speed.
Not sure we have anyone else that is far enough in their contract or cheap enough that anyone would want aside from Snead.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:25 am to bonethug0108
Vacarro. With the draft deep in Safeties and DB's, I wouldn't hang up the phone if someone wanted to offer something.
Grayson. Maybe someone else thinks they can develop him. Houston would probably offer him a multi-year deal.
Grayson. Maybe someone else thinks they can develop him. Houston would probably offer him a multi-year deal.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:28 am to TigerStick
Yeah I was about to edit back in Vaccaro. But he's an iffy proposition for teams as he's on his last year and isn't that cheap ($5ish mil I believe). Some team would have to love him to offer up enough to get him.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:28 am to bonethug0108
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For how young Anthony is, and the fact that we have him 2 (or 3 if the option is picked up) more years, you aren't trading him.
Is he still in the plans, because if he's not what's the point of keeping him? He's not that cheap for a backup who never plays.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 9:29 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:33 am to mindbreaker
Technically:
Kenny Vaccaro
Terron Armstead
Stephone Anthony
Delvin Breaux
those would be the most tradable assets we have.
Kenny Vaccaro
Terron Armstead
Stephone Anthony
Delvin Breaux
those would be the most tradable assets we have.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:36 am to saintsfan22
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he still in the plans, because if he's not what's the point of keeping him? He's not that cheap for a backup who never plays.
For one you have a new linebacker coach that could potentially develop the guy. Vitt couldn't do shite with young players while they were here. Only people that produced were ones we brought in FA. Casillas and maybe Humber were the closest things to rookies that developed under him into someone serviceable. Several instances of LB's leaving here and becoming starters elsewhere.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:39 am to Zoltan
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For one you have a new linebacker coach that could potentially develop the guy.
He could also watch the tape of Anthony and say nothing I can do with this guy.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:53 am to mindbreaker
They need to have value to be traded, so that eliminates anyone that we would actually want to trade.
Anthony is an interesting one bc I think he does still have some value; however, we have a new LBer coach and he'll be entering the 2nd year of the same system. Rumor about him at Clemson was he wasn't the brightest and it took him 2-3 years under the same system to make him a great player in that defense. If that's the case, then hopefully we will start to see him come under his own towards the end of this season.
Armstead, Vacarro, Brees & Breaux are the only ones I could see another team wanting. I just don't see us trading any of those, and I doubt they would even field calls for Armstead or Breaux.
Anthony is an interesting one bc I think he does still have some value; however, we have a new LBer coach and he'll be entering the 2nd year of the same system. Rumor about him at Clemson was he wasn't the brightest and it took him 2-3 years under the same system to make him a great player in that defense. If that's the case, then hopefully we will start to see him come under his own towards the end of this season.
Armstead, Vacarro, Brees & Breaux are the only ones I could see another team wanting. I just don't see us trading any of those, and I doubt they would even field calls for Armstead or Breaux.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:00 am to saintsfan22
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He could also watch the tape of Anthony and say nothing I can do with this guy.
Well his salary is still fully guaranteed this year. If we traded him we would owe the other million he's due for his signing bonus next year as well on this year's cap.
So is it worth eating 3 million in dead money this year for a later round pick when the guy could still be productive?
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:23 am to Zoltan
Trading Armstead would put us in cap hell.
Anthony probably has zero value.
Strief will not be traded. Core locker room guy and I doubt he plays for another team. He'll play out his contract and retire.
The only tradeable assets I see are Breaux and Snead.
I'm thinking the most you could get for either is a 3rd which is definitely not worth it.
Vaccaro could maybe net a 3rd but only if he agreed to re-sign with his new team.
Anthony probably has zero value.
Strief will not be traded. Core locker room guy and I doubt he plays for another team. He'll play out his contract and retire.
The only tradeable assets I see are Breaux and Snead.
I'm thinking the most you could get for either is a 3rd which is definitely not worth it.
Vaccaro could maybe net a 3rd but only if he agreed to re-sign with his new team.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:29 am to mindbreaker
Armstead, Peat, Ingram, Jordan, and vaccaro
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:56 pm to Chad504boy
Armstead puts us in bad cap shape if traded so he's not really a tradable player.
Same with Jordan.
Brees cannot be traded.
Is any team going to give us anything worthwhile for Breaux? One good year and injuries two years running. I'd be surprised if we got more than a 6th for him and that wouldn't be worth it.
Not sure on Ingram. Possible as he's into year 3 of 4. Not overly expensive and still young. Could possibly get us a third but I'd rather keep him.
Good call on Anthony's salary being guaranteed this year, but the other team picks that up. We'd only be stuck with paid bonuses at whatever point he is traded.
I'm surprised more teams aren't asking for Snead instead of Cooks. You get him for minimum this year and he's a RFA next year so you get him cheap again. His extension wouldn't be anywhere near Cooks.
Like Ingram Peat could be possible, but the return wouldn't be enough for us to pull the trigger.
Same with Jordan.
Brees cannot be traded.
Is any team going to give us anything worthwhile for Breaux? One good year and injuries two years running. I'd be surprised if we got more than a 6th for him and that wouldn't be worth it.
Not sure on Ingram. Possible as he's into year 3 of 4. Not overly expensive and still young. Could possibly get us a third but I'd rather keep him.
Good call on Anthony's salary being guaranteed this year, but the other team picks that up. We'd only be stuck with paid bonuses at whatever point he is traded.
I'm surprised more teams aren't asking for Snead instead of Cooks. You get him for minimum this year and he's a RFA next year so you get him cheap again. His extension wouldn't be anywhere near Cooks.
Like Ingram Peat could be possible, but the return wouldn't be enough for us to pull the trigger.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:58 pm to mindbreaker
I dunno who is watching Saints games and saying "Oh I gotta get me some of that Stephone Anthony..."
Even if it's not entirely his fault, his virtual disappearance from the lineup has been well-documented here.
Even if it's not entirely his fault, his virtual disappearance from the lineup has been well-documented here.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:58 pm to bonethug0108
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Armstead puts us in bad cap shape if traded so he's not really a tradable player.
OTC says we gain 2.5ish million if we trade Armstead.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:02 pm to Chad504boy
Because his $5 mil bonus hasn't kicked in yet. So yeah if we trade him like now sure, but in a couple of day that kicks in and I believe next year's salary becomes fully guaranteed (again the next team's problem though).
So if $2.5 mil is right we'd actually lose $2.5 mil instead once the bonus is paid in a few days (unless traded before).
I also don't know if that's counting him similar to a June 1st cut and pushing money into next year also.
At work so not sure if I can check it.
So if $2.5 mil is right we'd actually lose $2.5 mil instead once the bonus is paid in a few days (unless traded before).
I also don't know if that's counting him similar to a June 1st cut and pushing money into next year also.
At work so not sure if I can check it.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:04 pm to bonethug0108
i checked it, i'm advising you. at the moment, he's absolutely tradable but obviously not something realistic worth arguing.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:07 pm to Chad504boy
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obviously not something realistic
Why not Peat showed me he could fill that left Tackle role and do a good job. I'm not sure what the return on Armstead would be. Would you take less than a first for him. I don't think anyone would offer up more than a second because of injury concerns.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:15 pm to mindbreaker
no other team would give us anything, not even a 7th round pick for any of our guards or tackles, they are just average at best and only worth signing as released FA only
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