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No PI on Punt pass

Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:36 pm
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:36 pm
I don’t understand this BS. So the rule is you can’t have PI on a punt play. So please tell me what is the requirements for it to be a punt formation? You had a QB in the backfield. You don’t have to declare you are punting to an official. The rule is bullshite unless you can tell me the requirement for it to be a punt formation or it’s required to tell an official it’s a punt? (Which you don’t have to obviously)
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30020 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:38 pm to
its simple, they lined up in punt formation, thats what determines how they officiate the rules there

as a gunner they are allowed to block and hand check you the whole way down field

payton drew up a play that by rule never had any chance to work

even still holding could have, and should have, been called on that but its not reviewable
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:39 pm to
Wrong, what makes him a gunner and not a WR on that play? How did he declare himself a gunner? You have no answer.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14905 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:40 pm to
The explanation on the broadcast was laughable. Ok you can’t call PI, fine, but you sure as well can call holding.
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:41 pm to
But why can’t there be PI? What is the reasoning? No one can answer this bc the rule is bulkshit. If that’s the rule what makes it punt formation. That had to be defined if that rule exist
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30020 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:42 pm to
Wrong, what makes him a gunner and not a WR on that play? How did he declare himself a gunner? You have no answer.

wrong, as soon as they lined up in punt formation he is a gunner, it doesnt even matter if they change formation again, he still is considered a gunner until a time out is called or the play ends
Posted by SaintNation
Member since Dec 2008
1887 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:42 pm to
Again what makes it a punt formation. You can’t answer that. I’m waiting. There is no such thing. Every play could be a punt formation. Same number of people have to be on and off the line like every other play. Is it a judgment call?

There is no definition of this so the rule is bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 7:46 pm
Posted by BayouBuster
Mathews, la.
Member since Aug 2009
490 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:47 pm to
I would like an official explanation of punt formation. we had a QB in deep shotgun formation with one wr split out wide. As usual NFL officials screwed up and were clueless.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30303 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

Wrong, what makes him a gunner and not a WR on that play? How did he declare himself a gunner? You have no answer.



The answer is simple but let me simplify it even more for you. When you line up in a punt formation you can have 2 and only 2 men wide. Those two men are called gunners. If you are lined up wide, you are a gunner, it is that simple.

Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:51 pm to
Correct. Taysom Hill is a QB, not punter.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10446 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:55 pm to
So what makes wide receiver not a gunner when he is lined up wide on 4th with the quarterback in shotgun?
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:56 pm to
Great question. No idea.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8381 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 7:56 pm to
Domingue is saying that the alignment defines the formation, not the personnel... which makes sense
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30020 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:02 pm to
SaintNation

go to bed, you are drunk and making more and more of a fool of yourself
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7047 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:05 pm to
I believe the rule is there because typically that guy guarding the gunner is running downfield blocking as he is allowed, and they would never know if it was being faked because they arent looking back at punter.

It's crazy that some of you cant all of a sudden tell what a punt formation is. You guys must always be on the edge of your seat on 4th down then, being so clueless.
This post was edited on 12/8/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:11 pm to
Right Saint Nation it’s bad form to ask legitimate questions... don’t you know the wife beater-undershirt wearing crowd expects you to trash great players like Jordan, and Kamara for wearing an earring?
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7047 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:14 pm to
I mean, my wife doesn't know shite about football and she could tell you everytime a team goes into punt formation so it cant be that difficult
Posted by noles25
Destin, FL
Member since Nov 2014
495 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:15 pm to
I'll make it simple for you on what makes it a "punt formation", is a player 10 or more yards behind the LOS ready to receive the snap. The officials also afford the snapper protection in this scenario.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7047 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

I'll make it simple for you on what makes it a "punt formation", is a player 10 or more yards behind the LOS ready to receive the snap.


Didnt you read above? This is now called deep shotgun. The first time I saw the guy kick the ball from deep shotgun, it confused the frick out me.............when I was 4
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141137 posts
Posted on 12/8/19 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

I'll make it simple for you on what makes it a "punt formation", is a player 10 or more yards behind the LOS ready to receive the snap. The officials also afford the snapper protection in this scenario.

yes... a punter normally stands back what... 12-15 yards behind that LOS

that's the ONLY time any one lines up that far back is punt formation

plus he had an up-man (blocker about midway between line & punter)

therefore the punt rules are in effect... which... whatever fine

but HOLDING... that SHOULD'VE been called

and then the next SF drive being extended by a holding call that was ticky tack at best... just...
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