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re: Nick Saldiveri taking all first-team reps in Saints left guard competition

Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:11 pm to
The Saints are really rolling the dice.
3 new position players on the oline.
Less than 10 starts between all 3 as the oline stands now.
Oh dear.

Forgot to add these 3 raw olinemen have been switched to positions they are not very familiar with.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:18 pm to
Better than staying with what you had last year
Posted by partywiththelombardi
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:45 pm to
"Team Building is a lot like making a pizza, and the key is the dough...I don't know to make dough, but hot pockets are pretty good."

Dennis Allen probably
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:31 pm to
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The Saints are really rolling the dice. 3 new position players on the oline. Less than 10 starts between all 3 as the oline stands now. Oh dear. Forgot to add these 3 raw olinemen have been switched to positions they are not very familiar with.


Lol its the offseason- got to be more optimistic.

But I agree in reality this is a recipe for disaster especially since the two guys who were your best lineman last year in Ram and Peat are gone.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:34 pm to
Did you miss the "as it stands now" part?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:42 pm to
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Did you miss the "as it stands now" part?


Yeah I’m sure it’ll change. But training camp is in a month. We may add a random training camp body but this oline’s success in general will be determined mainly by internal development and coaching. Thats a huge gamble.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:10 pm to
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success in general will be determined mainly by internal development and coaching


Yup. It seems that is what they are counting on. Its easy to assume this is the line they would like to go forward with. But the tape won't really show until preseason games against other dlineman. Then if it doesn't go well they will be in a mad scramble to fill the holes. I don't ever remember a line with 60% of it having a total of less than 10 starts. They have their work cut out for them
Posted by Mpd31
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:02 am to
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From RT to LG, boy I hope this pans out. Thats an incredibly difficult switch with an almost 180 degree change in style for blocking technique etc. Its a lot more of a heads up attack on DL instead of more of an outside attack. You need a lot of strength to be an inside guard or center, especially in the arms.



Honestly, it is not that difficult of a switch. You do need sufficient lower body strength for those bigger DTs but you are also often combo blocking those guys up to linebackers. It is not that crazy of a move. He was projected as a guy that could move to guard during the draft process.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Honestly, it is not that difficult of a switch. You do need sufficient lower body strength for those bigger DTs but you are also often combo blocking those guys up to linebackers. It is not that crazy of a move.


When you personally made that switch in the NFL please let us then know of the difficulty.

Otherwise saying something is not difficult when you personally have no first hand knowledge of doing it is honestly just a bunch of BS.
Posted by Mpd31
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Otherwise saying something is not difficult when you personally have no first hand knowledge of doing it is honestly just a bunch of BS.


It is the nfl so everything is hard but this isn’t a crazy transition for an offensive lineman. I switched from tackle to guard in college. Not saying it is the same but was responding to how dramatic of a move the poster was making it sound. If Nick can play it is very doable.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:25 pm to
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Better than staying with what you had last year


When Penning got rocked by Arden Key in the 1st half, it was pretty relieving that the adjustments worked enough to where Key didn't get any more sacks after that.

Tennessee's offense sucked and the Saints D kept them out of the endzone but for as many passing yards the Saints had that day, Carr was getting the shite kicked out of him.

I guess what makes me nervous is trying 3 players at new spot albeit still way too early to be totally sure.
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted by P bean
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:25 pm to
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When you personally made that switch in the NFL please let us then know of the difficulty. Otherwise saying something is not difficult when you personally have no first hand knowledge of doing it is honestly just a bunch of BS.



Youre an idiot.

This guy was clearly projected as a guard and any simple amount of research about him as a draft prospect would show you same.

But clearly you didnt even do a simple amount of pre draft research about him so stfu.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:58 pm to
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Youre an idiot. This guy was clearly projected as a guard and any simple amount of research about him as a draft prospect would show you same. But clearly you didnt even do a simple amount of pre draft research about him so stfu.


You’re a fricking moron.

Just because a draft profile listed him being versatile when he was drafted in fourth round doesn’t mean a poster can make an assessment that him switching positions as a starter will be easy.

But go ahead act like other posters and make assumptions off draft profiles of fourth round picks and how they’ll fare in switching positions as starters in the NFL. This is nothing more than offseason bullshite by posters who have no idea what the frick they’re talking about. But clearly you’re some NFL player expert because you read a draft profile right? Yeah maybe you should just stfu. Typical “Karen.”
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:02 pm to
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It is the nfl so everything is hard but this isn’t a crazy transition for an offensive lineman. I switched from tackle to guard in college. Not saying it is the same but was responding to how dramatic of a move the poster was making it sound. If Nick can play it is very doable.


Maybe but from a talent perspective hes a 4th round pick who honestly hasn’t shown much. Now expecting him to switch positions and be a competent starter? In my opinion I think you’re asking for a bit much. Again everything on this oline is dependent on internal development.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 6:13 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:17 pm to
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Saldiveri started a game at guard in college and has been practicing there since he’s got here. Played center at the senior bowl. He seems comfortable playing all over but what does he know
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:50 pm to
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Saldiveri started a game at guard in college and has been practicing there since he’s got here. Played center at the senior bowl. He seems comfortable playing all over but what does he know


Him being comfortable at playing all over has nothing to do with him being successful in a starting spot changing positions but its offseason so buy into whatever positive bullshite you want to dig up.

The guy is a 4th round pick who saw 18 offensive snaps last year despite our oline begging for someone with talent to play.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 7:33 am to
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Him being comfortable at playing all over has nothing to do with him being successful in a starting spot changing positions but its offseason so buy into whatever positive bullshite you want to dig up.


Stating the fact that he already has experience inside is positive bullshite Just stop talking like this is his first practice playing guard. The permanent switch has been in effect for more than a year. “Offensive guard is where I live right now, so that’s definitely where I’m most comfortable. I get the most reps there.“

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The guy is a 4th round pick who saw 18 offensive snaps last year despite our oline begging for someone with talent to play.


You’re blabbering on about the difficulty learning a new position but expected him to contribute as a rookie in the same breath. You should consider he was learning guard full time, hurt in OTAs then PUP listed. He started to get action in the regular season then went on IR for five games.

No one thinks he’s Jahiri Evans. Come back down to earth
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:26 am to
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Stating the fact that he already has experience inside is positive bullshite Just stop talking like this is his first practice playing guard.


He started one game in college at guard at Old Dominion and you’re acting like he can start at guard in the NFL. Thats absolute positive bullshite.

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You’re blabbering on about the difficulty learning a new position but expected him to contribute as a rookie in the same breath. You should consider he was learning guard full time, hurt in OTAs then PUP listed. He started to get action in the regular season then went on IR for five games. No one thinks he’s Jahiri Evans. Come back down to earth


You’re blabbering about what he said after he was drafted and how that means he can switch positions and be a starter in the NFL. A guy who did nothing his rookie year and is now going to switch positions and be a starter for us?

You’re basically saying he can be a competent starting guard with your only evidence being what he said after he was drafted. Maybe you should come down to earth.

This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:27 pm to
I didn't read the whole thread but are you prepared for a rookie at LT, Nick at LG, and Penning at RT?


Because that's our line.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73375 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:30 pm to
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You’re arguing with me so….


No. Maybe that’s why you’re on your bullshite on every board you post on, arguing like a simp. I didn’t post an opinion, just facts. There’s nothing to argue. You decided to make up something to start an argument bc you didn’t know he had experience playing inside

He’s been playing guard full time since May ‘23. It’s done, he’s a guard
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