re: NFL FA/Trade Rumors Thread

I could be 100% ok with that.

Meh

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This. The only interesting piece is Josh Rosen

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I mean you also move up 18 spots in the 3rd

Josh Rosen is a cock holster.

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So moving up 18 spots isn’t significant? It only cost us this years 2nd rounder to move up 14 spots last year in the 2nd. Do you even understand the draft. They always have pretty good talent that drops to the top of the third. Geez.

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Different rounds have different values and different picks, especially future picks, have different values. These also change in value seemingly every year. What took a second last year, just to move up 14 spots, wasn’t the same three years ago. Hell three years ago we traded a third and fourth for an EXTRA second round pick to take Bell. The very next year it took a 2nd round pick just to get a third rounder for Kamara. Hell you should see what the Chiefs gave up to move up and take Mahomes. Because they jumped 17 spots in the fricking first round and only gave up a third and a future first. That’s it. Then the next year it took almost as much to jump only 14 spots and it didn’t even net a top 10 pick.

Pick Value fluctuates every single year. In this year’s draft, with there being so much depth, the difference between 24 and 26 just doesn’t make a ton of sense if you’re only moving up in the third round. Second round is a different story. It would be different if we were getting that third round pick instead of just swapping. Especially if you move back and a team jumps ahead of us and takes the guy we would have taken at 24, only to get greedy over swapping third round picks in a round that will still have a ton of players of value. For example, Kareem Hunt, Kenny Golloday, Chris Godwin were all players taken 85 and lower. And that’s just one year.


Don’t talk out of your arse when you really don’t know shite

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Don’t talk out of your arse when you really don’t know shite

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I could sit here all day and throw out names of players that were also gone before pick 88 that were great like let’s say future HOF Russell Wilson who was picked at 75 or our own All Pro Demario Davis picked two picks later in the same draft. Both gone way before that magical #85 you threw out.

Guess I win right, since I’m doing the same shite as you? Still not convinced? How about a scenario that affected our Saints recently. Just two years ago we could have had Mark Andrews who would have been gone before pick 88 and we end up with TQS a few picks later. Guess having a middling 4th wr instead of a pro bowl te isn’t significant to you? Esp when we had a great need for te that year. But like you said I don’t know shite lol.

And no shite draft trades differ every year. It differs due to how desperate a team wants to trade up for a certain player. That’s why values differ year to year. We probably overpaid to move up for Davenport but the Saints really wanted him and paid the costs. Phins just gave up a 2nd for Rosen and I think it’s a good trade depending on the condition if a highly graded player drops down. If only o lineman, the cluster of 2nd tier corners and the linebackers left on the board, I’d pull the trigger on this trade.

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More often than not, there are good players found just as abundantly in the bottom of the third as the top.

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And one last thing, you seem to miss the point entirely. That’s fine and dandy all the players you named being picked after 85, but guess what, they would have also been there earlier in the round. The ones I named would not be. You totally dismissed it as being insignificant but you are dead wrong. I rather we have a larger pool of players to pick from in the 3rd especially this year not having a 2nd round pick.

Neither of y’all are going to agree with the other bc a point could be made either way but I lean toward townedrunkard with conditions. You are only dropping two picks back in the first so it is worth the better 3rd pending the players available at 24. If there is a guy that you really covet that you don’t think is available at 26 then you don’t take the trade. If you have a few players you really want at 24 or a guy that you feel will still be available at 26 then you take the trade. The statement that a difference of 18 picks in the 3rd is not significant is a bad take.

You also get Rosen who is at worst a serviceable 3rd qb. He really hasn’t had a chance thus far in his career. He has only been in the league for two years and has been on two different teams that were both terrible. Neither of them had an offensive line or very good receivers. Hell in two years he has had to learn two different playbooks. That is hard for a young qb still trying to develop and become pro. Let’s not forget that he was a top pick and some people projected him to be top 5..

I hope the following happens after the draft...

Warford traded for a future pick or waived

Sign Blake Bortles as backup QB
Sign Nigel Bradham