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re: Martez Wilson waived.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:50 pm to landrywasbeast30
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:50 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Because our staff before this year has proven to be amazing at making decisions about defensive players?
Who have we let go on defense that you regret losing?
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:51 pm to Meateye
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Hes been here for 3 years and has a total of 5 sacks and 33 tackles. Come on man.
Last year Junior and Tez in the snaps they were given were two of the best pass rushers in the league. Junior gets full time snaps, look what happens. And again this year, in very limited snaps, Tez was getting to the qb. Shouldn't it be on the coaches to find time for a guy like that? People were saying the same crap about Junior before the season that you are saying about Tez now.
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You just proved your stupidity with this statement.
How stupid of me to accuse Payton and these coaches of sticking with old guys who suck over playing younger guys with potential. Not like this is the first year that hasn't happened since Payton has been here, and it only happened because all the old guys got hurt.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:51 pm to sunnydaze
Color me surprised.
I was really hoping Wilson would get healthy.
I assumed that was the problem.
He's played 42 snaps this season, in which he racked up 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 1 QB hurry, and 2 tackles.
I was really hoping Wilson would get healthy.
I assumed that was the problem.
He's played 42 snaps this season, in which he racked up 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 1 QB hurry, and 2 tackles.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:52 pm to Patrick O Rly
Not to hijak, but if Butler had a full tear, then why not IR him for the year right from jump? The fact that they didn't suggests it's not as critical as it could have been (and, since I'm thinking about it, eff that POS Ingram for causing his injury).
As for Tez, perhaps the Saints elevated Griffin to keep him safe from the multiple teams w/ QB injuries
As for Tez, perhaps the Saints elevated Griffin to keep him safe from the multiple teams w/ QB injuries
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:53 pm to saintsalwaysnumber1
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I can see us giving the browns Luke and Ingram plus a second for josh Gordan and a browns fourth. Or the rams for a second or even the bears for something
No possible way this happens, but it would be the shite.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:54 pm to TexasTiger6777
I trust SP, there has to be a lot more going on behind the scenes that hasn't gotten out public yet.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
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He's played 42 snaps this season, in which he racked up 1 sack, 1 QB hit, 1 QB hurry, and 2 tackles.
I must be missing something because those qb hit and hurry numbers don't add up with what I've seen with my own eyes.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:56 pm to landrywasbeast30
Are you calling Hoodoo a liar?
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:58 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I trust SP
Someone needs to explain why so many people feel this way. The guy is an offensive genius, but the defense has been horrible with very little talent since he's been with this team. At least that was the complaint everyone had until things finally clicked this year. Even the year they won the Super Bowl, that defense was more about turnovers than anything else.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 6:59 pm to TexasTiger6777
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Are you calling Hoodoo a liar?
I'm saying I've seen the guy hurry and hit the qb more than once.
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:00 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Junior gets full time snaps, look what happens.
Because he earned it obviously
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People were saying the same crap about Junior before the season that you are saying about Tez now.
Umm no they were not. I thought that both of them would do awesome in a 3-4 but Tez obviously couldn't cut it.
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And again this year, in very limited snaps, Tez was getting to the qb. Shouldn't it be on the coaches to find time for a guy like that?
Ok everybody look we should fire Rob Ryan and hire this jerk off landrywasbeast30 as DC. He obviously knows more than GW, Spags & RR. Sign this fricker up now!!!
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:02 pm to landrywasbeast30
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Someone needs to explain why so many people feel this way. The guy is an offensive genius, but the defense has been horrible with very little talent since he's been with this team. At least that was the complaint everyone had until things finally clicked this year. Even the year they won the Super Bowl, that defense was more about turnovers than anything else.
Who have we let go on defense that you regret losing?
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:09 pm to Patrick O Rly
Wow this is surprising! Griffin must have very high potential.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:12 pm to Meateye
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Because he earned it obviously
They are basically the same player. Wasn't it going to be Butler and Will Smith as starters? How exactly is that "earning it"? Bottom line is both guys deserved full time snaps, one guy got them, and look what happened. Tez would be doing the same as Junior in the same amount of snaps.
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Umm no they were not. I thought that both of them would do awesome in a 3-4 but Tez obviously couldn't cut it.
And you called me stupid.
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Ok everybody look we should fire Rob Ryan and hire this jerk off landrywasbeast30 as DC. He obviously knows more than GW, Spags & RR. Sign this fricker up now!!!
God forbid anyone think Tez is actually a good player that they shouldn't have cut. Coaches never make mistakes. They are perfect. Just so you know, you seem to be in the minority about Tez if the reaction from people in this thread is any indication of how most Saints fans feel, douche.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:14 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:In the past, they looked similar.
They are basically the same player.
The sample size was too small this season to make comparisons.
quote:You really don't know that.
Tez would be doing the same as Junior in the same amount of snaps.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:16 pm to saintsfan22
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Who have we let go on defense that you regret losing?
How many good defenses has Payton had since being with the Saints? You are completely missing the point. Why should I trust the decisions about a defensive player coming from an organization that has had horrible defenses in Payton's time here.
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:17 pm to landrywasbeast30
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landrywasbeast30
U sho is angry
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:17 pm to saintsfan22
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Who have we let go on defense that you regret losing?
he's gonna tell you ninkovich.
on a note to the topic:
every analyst said we had "no talent" and "transition" will be difficult. I'm sorry, but we had talent, we just didn't use them properly. I wanted wilson to succeed as much as anyone, but since that san fran game he's just not able to get on the field for extended periods of time. Who knows why?
he gets to the QB, but he can't cover. He also gets eaten up on run plays. I still have this etched in my mind.
LINK
edit: this front office/coaching staff is letting the younger players play. This isn't like spags who wanted to fit round pieces into square holes. I trust this move that they know what they're doing a million times more than last year's shite fest.
This post was edited on 10/22/13 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:19 pm to landrywasbeast30
Ninkovich was hurt and didn't fit the system at the time
Posted on 10/22/13 at 7:21 pm to htran90
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I wanted wilson to succeed as much as anyone, but since that san fran game he's just not able to get on the field for extended periods of time. Who knows why?
he gets to the QB, but he can't cover. He also gets eaten up on run plays. I still have this etched in my mind.
Exactly
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