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Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:05 pm to secondandshort
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To play man you’d have to send at least one backer. Otherwise he’d have time to sit back and wait for man to get beat.
They don’t get that. They’d be questioning why we were in man and applying no pressure. It’s like clockwork
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:05 pm to secondandshort
quote:Cool, so if he waits, that's the last play of the game. I'm good with Keenum taking all the time he needed while we drop 7 or 8, hug the sidelines with deep safeties.
Otherwise he’d have time to sit back and wait for man to get beat.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:06 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:This goes back to then needing more yards than you thought originally.
They don’t get that
If we're still covering the sidelines and over the top , then they can take all the time they want.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:06 pm to shel311
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Cool, so if he waits, that's the last play of the game. I'm good with Keenum taking all the time he needed while we drop 7 or 8, hug the sidelines with deep safeties.
Yea you’d be cool until someone actually got beat and they scored.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:10 pm to shel311
You can’t just cover sidelines if you’re in man.
Not totally against your man cover three but the defense called wasn’t bad. Guy didn’t make a play.
Not totally against your man cover three but the defense called wasn’t bad. Guy didn’t make a play.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:10 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:You're creating something that doesn't exist to make your point, that's never a good sign for a solid argument.
Yea you’d be cool until someone actually got beat and they scored
You dont know how I would have reacted. And if we played a different defense and Diggs caught a ball in double coverage then broke a court of tackles and scored, I obviously wouldn't blame the coverage.
You gotta do better than a made up hypothetical that isn't even so.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:11 pm to secondandshort
quote:You play to the outside of the WR.
You can’t just cover sidelines if you’re in man.
quote:would you prefer 1 guy with a chance to make a play or multiple guys? That's what this boils down to.
Not totally against your man cover three but the defense called wasn’t bad. Guy didn’t make a play.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:12 pm to secondandshort
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To play man you’d have to send at least one backer. Otherwise he’d have time to sit back and wait for man to get beat.
You play man cover 2 and you can rush 4 just like we did on that play. Hell, we played an outside zone with two deep safeties. It was essentially cover 2 zone pushed to the sideline.
You play cover 3 man and you rush 3 and you've got to have a frick up bigger than Williams's to give up a play that beats you.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:14 pm to secondandshort
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You can’t just cover sidelines if you’re in man.
Not totally against your man cover three but the defense called wasn’t bad. Guy didn’t make a play.
Cover 3 man does every thing this defense was supposed to do, plus it gives you an extra player or two to help. Cover 3 man puts 3 CBs and two safeties to the trips side of the field.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:15 pm to lsupride87
Yes, I woulda took even this...
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm to slackster
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you've got to have a frick up bigger than Williams's to give up a play that beats you.
Not really. Marcus’s frick up will stand alone in the history of the sport. Plenty of things can go wrong with any defense that don’t involve that type of frick up. Remember the marshawn run? Big frick up but doesn’t compare to last night imo
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Playing deep thirds does not stop a player from running out of bounds
This all depends on the boundary corners technique. If they are playing 3 safeties deep man under with a trail technique on the boundaries the sidelines are taken away and the safeties take away the chance of a deep pass.
Play 3 deep with off man while protecting the boundaries and the Vikings have to dink and donk up the field with no timeouts.
The variation of cover 2 the Saints chose wasn’t the greatest choice, but Williams was in position to make the tackle and whiffed.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:19 pm to Magazine St
quote:Apparently this is a Mickey Mouse defense in that situation.
If they are playing 3 safeties deep man under with a trail technique on the boundaries the sidelines are taken away and the safeties take away the chance of a deep pass.
Play 3 deep with off man while protecting the boundaries and the Vikings have to dink and donk up the field with no timeouts.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:21 pm to shel311
It is Mickey Mouse defense. You not realizing it is laughable and why I’m not taking anything you say seriously
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:22 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:Man, this is a rough thread for you.
You not realizing it is laughable and why I’m not taking anything you say seriously
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:24 pm to shel311
idk how y'all have the energy to argue over this today
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:26 pm to shel311
The easiest way to put a bow on all of this...in that situation there should NEVER be only 1 man between the deepest WR and the endzone. I'm gonna go ahead and say that is not even up for debate. If you disagree, that's a you problem because it's only the most obvious thing in the world.
There is no excuse for Diggs to only have 1 man behind him there.
There is no excuse for Diggs to only have 1 man behind him there.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:00 pm to shel311
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Apparently this is a Mickey Mouse defense in that situation.
The fact that he referred to man to man with safety help as “Mickey Mouse” defense and then referenced “madden” tells you a lot. Madden has scripted player reactions for game situations based on player ratings within the game.
3 deep safeties protects the seams and trail technique in man better protects against out routes and back shoulder throws. Besides all that, the Saints seemed to give up most of the big plays this year in zone based defenses.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:50 pm to Magazine St
Yup
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