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re: Jordyn Tyson the player

Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:04 am to
Posted by Doug_H
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:04 am to
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Yeah listening to Tyler it didn't sound like he was ready yet. We'll see. I would guess next week and fingers crossed

It was a fair and refreshing answer Shough gave along the lines of "We'll continue to get the reps and build the chemistry on the practice field, but it's unknown what it'll be like in games. It could be greater than we imagine or worse, but either way it'll be on us to gameplan and get him ready".

If he is healthy you play him and sit Bryce Lance. Lance even after 7 games still doesn't have great chemistry with Shough so its not like it would be a big drop off from that standpoint, plus Tyson obviously has the higher upside.

If playbook & snap count are the question, then gameplan some snaps & plays for Tyson and utilize Barion Brown the rest of the snaps that would have normally gone to Lance. Brown to me has earned the right for more snaps.

Not hating on Lance either, he's performing okay for a 4th rd pick. It could be a lot better or a lot worse. Nothing against the WR he might become but as of right now he still struggles recognizing blitzes and hot routes
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:57 am to
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thought he was very, very clearly the best WR prospect in this past draft


Lol
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:14 am to
What's so funny? Tate was clearly better?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:45 am to
The same argument that happened at draft time. The same argument happened when they traded a Ricky Williams-like draft pick lot for Chris Olave

If you are taking a WR in the top 10 he better be generational or have generational traits, and Tyson was never that.

So when someone says him vs the field, it’s worth a laugh, especially at a position like WR when so many great players come from down the draft board. There is very little separation in talent from Tyson vs a player taken at 30 or even 75. This is already proving to be true and we are just halfway through the rookie year. Coupled with his injury history, this was a huge reach by the team.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 7:48 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:45 am to
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There is very little separation in talent from Tyson vs a player taken at 30 or even 75.


Hard disagree
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:46 am to
There’s not even a point in debating it. It’s always the field. I guess it still has to be said D
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:54 am to
I don’t disagree that WRs are trending towards how RBs are in terms of value. And you know I respect your #evals.

I think Tyson is special.
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:01 am to
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I think Tyson is special.

Agree. When he had Olave smiling at his skill set, you know he's special. It's not like Olave doesn't know talent when he sees it, either.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:19 am to
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think Tyson is special.



He is perennially injured. The chances he ever reaches a sustained elite level is slim to none due to that.

That’s not even factoring what we think his talent level is. That in itself made it a poor investment for what was a top 10 pick at a deep position
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:24 am to
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He is perennially injured. The chances he ever reaches a sustained elite level is slim to none due to that.

That’s not even factoring what we think his talent level is. That in itself made it a poor investment for what was a top 10 pick at a deep position



opinions like these never backfire. never ever.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:24 am to
We’ll see. I said in pre draft I didn’t want Tyson due to injury concerns. But he’s here and about to play and I think it’s worth mentioning that talent wise, he’s way up there, imo.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:48 am to
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opinions like these never backfire. never ever.


I’m not sure you’ve been right about anything regarding the saints in the last decade. lol
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:50 am to
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I’m not sure you’ve been right about anything regarding the saints in the last decade. lol



cute remark. complete load of shite. but cute.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:53 am to
People use the word investment then at the first dip want to dump it. Its not how investment works.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:03 pm to
There’s dumbass Loomis-lover #2
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:10 pm to
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There’s dumbass Loomis-lover #2


No need to lie and be a bitter, humorless pile of sh!t Fester.



















Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:56 pm to
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That’s not even factoring what we think his talent level is. That in itself made it a poor investment for what was a top 10 pick at a deep position

Are you trying to say that his talent level wasn't factored in when picking an injury prone WR in the Top 10? That's the ONLY reason he was picked there. Its the main thing that was factored in.

?
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:23 pm to
No, I’m saying he wasn’t only polarizing due to injuries. His talent wasn’t universally agreed upon & that only makes it more of a reach. But the injuries alone were enough to say NO
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64991 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:33 pm to
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He is perennially injured. The chances he ever reaches a sustained elite level is slim to none due to that.



This obviously has validity, but it's not what is being discussed. This thread is about "Jordyn Tyson the player".

You said you see very little difference between him and those drafted at 30-75. Is that solely based on his ability...or were you weighting that opinion based on the injury?
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
78910 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 2:53 pm to
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His talent wasn’t universally agreed upon


I would imagine money that 99% of mock drafts and experts in and out of the game had him in the first round. So let some people hang their hat on that 1% and celebrate it
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